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Nothing false or misinformation in my posts. The facts listed are easy to find on line. A diesel/petrol car will always be quicker to fuel up. Range will improve when battreies get better, but we're not there yet.
If electric works for you then great, it wouldnt work for me.
 
simon ess said:
I'm totally on the fence about this topic but I do hope you see the irony in this post.

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I know..... But the Carbon Brief page is full of well referenced data. It's really worth a read.
Not tabloid style scaremongering headlines often using single user anecdotal story.
 
wyx087 said:
Just stuff is written online doesn't mean it has been properly verified to ensure it is truthful and factual.
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Rather like the Electric Viking YouTube channel.
 
munch said:
Rather like the Electric Viking YouTube channel.
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you should watch a few of his very recent stuff especially about China it is very well researched stuff and quite frankly scary and entertaining
 
Mr Bump said:
you should watch a few of his very recent stuff especially about China it is very well researched stuff and quite frankly scary and entertaining
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Have watched a couple and they are OK, but I wouldn't quate his videos as a truthful and factual source.
 
munch said:
Have watched a couple and they are OK, but I wouldn't quate his videos as a truthful and factual source.
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Hove you checked what he says or just going by gut feeling?
 
Steep said:
Hove you checked what he says or just going by gut feeling?
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The one I saw about shell shutting filling stations may be correct on figures but it doesn't tell the whole picture. 1000 stations to close out of how many over how many geographical locations, for instance.
 
I wonder if a filling station changing hands from Shell to (say) Tesco counts as a closure by Shell? Even if it doesn't, a supermarket opening a large filling station will kill sales at the more expensive (almost always) branded ones.
 
munch said:
The one I saw about shell shutting filling stations may be correct on figures but it doesn't tell the whole picture. 1000 stations to close out of how many over how many geographical locations, for instance.
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Well I believe it's worldwide but mainly China.
 
Some amazing new vids on this chanel
the new 1000mile EV battery from CATL allready in use in trucks in China
 
Garry Edwards said:
Right now I can buy a 2016 Nissan Leaf for just £2500 - which is probably less than a comparable ICE car https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...-type=Electric&make=&postcode=bd175ld&fromsra

High mileage? Yes, but there are several with much lower mileage at very low prices too - not that I would want one:)
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Crumbs 160,000 miles = 20,000 per year and with 153 mile range, that is at a minimum 1046 charging cycles!

It is not that common to find such 'family' car with that level of mileage and as declared as 'one owner' .........was that perhaps a hire car and not a private owner?

I wonder what the health status of that battery is ??? And as such what is it's usable life before scrapping and recycling is required?
 
Even when the battery is too inefficient for use in the car, it should be able to be repurposed in a lower drain application - like a home battery.
 
Box Brownie said:
Crumbs 160,000 miles = 20,000 per year and with 153 mile range, that is at a minimum 1046 charging cycles!

It is not that common to find such 'family' car with that level of mileage and as declared as 'one owner' .........was that perhaps a hire car and not a private owner?

I wonder what the health status of that battery is ??? And as such what is it's usable life before scrapping and recycling is required?
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Fair point, but we could buy this 2020 Renault, just 22, 700 miles, for £9,800 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...&page=1&postcode=bd175ld&year-to=2024&fromsra - a golf of the same era with similar mileage can be had for £12,500. This indicates that the depreciation on electric cars is horrific compared to ICE cars.

As I've said before, even if electric cars are the future, the future is still in the future:)
 
Box Brownie said:
Crumbs 160,000 miles = 20,000 per year and with 153 mile range, that is at a minimum 1046 charging cycles!

It is not that common to find such 'family' car with that level of mileage and as declared as 'one owner' .........was that perhaps a hire car and not a private owner?

I wonder what the health status of that battery is ??? And as such what is it's usable life before scrapping and recycling is required?
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We bought our Skoda Octavia 1.9 diesel in 2012, with 92K on the clock. It currently has 207K on the clock. There are plenty of others with that kind of mileage. I for one would not like to go on holiday to the South of France in a Nissan Leaf, but then the people pushing EV's probably think that the rest of us shouldn't be having holidays.
 
With people now stealing the cables from charging stations and outseide people houses. The cost of charging away from home being expensive, the range averging around 70% of claimed, and the national grid saying it will cost billions to upgade the grid to cope with the demand if we all go electric and we dont have the generating capacity..... I'm out. ;)
 
andya700 said:
We bought our Skoda Octavia 1.9 diesel in 2012, with 92K on the clock. It currently has 207K on the clock. There are plenty of others with that kind of mileage. I for one would not like to go on holiday to the South of France in a Nissan Leaf, but then the people pushing EV's probably think that the rest of us shouldn't be having holidays.
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Yes, diesel engines especially have history for longevity. My neighbour has two, a small 3 cylinder Pug now IIRC @ around 200,000 miles and his HiAce van @ around 280,000 miles.

On the surmise that a diesel engine is maintained it will perform well for its whole lifecycle but the degradation in battery health means that performance dropoff occurs i.e. reducing range over the lifecycle of the EV
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With people now stealing the cables from charging stations and outseide people houses. The cost of charging away from home being expensive, the range averging around 70% of claimed, and the national grid saying it will cost billions to upgade the grid to cope with the demand if we all go electric and we dont have the generating capacity..... I'm out. ;)
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The need to use a physical plug cable is antiquated though simple infrastructure.
I thought that wireless charging was being developed and though has higher infrastructure costs it could mean small top-up charging can happen whilst in traffic and also remove the need for cables in the 'street scene' when charging on the public roads?
 
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vintageman said:
EVs are a really strange way to save the planet .

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...r-chemicals-lithium-ion-batteries-environment

More toxic than nuclear?
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And Oils track record and use is cleaner?
as has been said many times EV's are not just about batteries as people hyper focus on
its about the move to vehicles using 100% green energy over there lifetime.

in 5 years time you will pretty much be able to do that something an ICE car will never be able to do
if you read/watch a lot of his channel you will start to understand that

also people need to move away from the term saving the planet
its not about that at all its just about doing things better, building super complex car engines and then burning oil for there lifetime is total crap
building efficient EV or hybrid cars and fueling them with renewable energy with maybe some oil/fuel in the mix is simply tons better

perfect case in point look at today's generation mix, not enough renewable built yet so we have the GAS on high and that has electricity at £88/mwh which is very high indeed
we just desperately need more renewables in this country and we need it now.


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Just like pouring old sump oil down drains has been for over a century...
Or battery acid into harbours in the far East.
 
I hired a car from Europcar at Faro airport. Went for a "Tesla Model 3 or similar", got a 2023 long range made in China car.

Best part of rental is that there is absolutely no fuel cost. Tesla supercharging is part of package and I can return the car at any charge level. I drove ~450 km in total, due to using "keep climate on" feature a few times, I needed a quick 10min top up at supercharger. Picked up at just over 90%, returned at 20%. Only costed me £180 all in for 5 days (didn't pay for rip-off additional insurance of course, got a £40 annual hire car insurance insurance). Car also had on-going premium connectivity, so in-car music was instantly sorted with ad-free Spotify.
https://www.europcar.co.uk/en-gb/p/car-rental/fleet/brand/tesla
Hiring a petrol car and driving 280 miles would have cost £40 in fuel alone at 14p/mile in UK, Portugal fuel prices look similar in number (~1.50 euros per litre). Similar <£200 price automatic petrol cars are Polo or similar size. £150 could only get a petrol auto super-mini when I was booking. Needing automatic made rentals expensive.

There's a few minor things Europcar could have done better. Software running on it was about 6 months out of date. The computer vision parking assist was not as good as latest software in my car. So I paired my phone and sat in the car for 30min to download the update. Europcar reps also did not understand nor had procedure to give me Tesla app access to the car, so every time returning to the car needed to wait a minute or so for air-con to cool the car and needed to fish out the keycard to lock/unlock/drive. Thankfully I was able to pair my own Tesla keycard with the car giving us 2 keys rather than 1. (deleted it when returning of course)

Overall, I'd highly recommend checking out EV rentals if you have some EV charging experience and have the RFID cards/apps (all free to sign up). The cost is probably cheaper and renting Tesla with Europcar's policy are definitely cheaper.
 
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