Dog breeder legal advice

[sphexx]

You just reminded me of something I did a few years ago for the then Trailhound Welfare
I worked on their embroidery logo for them.
They wanted some car stickers designed, I used pictures of the local Hunt Foxhounds to create them
thinking no one would realise, but the lady who ran the trust loved them but spotted immediately that the dogs
were working hounds ......oops
Just looked and it seems they are still selling them

When using pictures of dogs on merchandise the usual practice is to use overseas dogs as models because if you use U.K. dogs you limit the market to people who have those dogs in their ancestry and so on ...

 

[Gremlin]

When using pictures of dogs on merchandise the usual practice is to use overseas dogs as models because if you use U.K. dogs you limit the market to people who have those dogs in their ancestry and so on ...

Well the markings were changed to those owned by the lady I was doing the stickers for, which she thought was lovely
As this was a charity thing I doubt anyone buying them would really notice anyway

 

[Gremlin]

Why the hell the KC does nothing to stop that I don't know. I do know 5 years after his death its still hard to find puppies without him in their bloodlines.

Many years ago I fell in love with Spinones, at the time they weren't numerically big in the UK, but research and asking around I found
out that a foundation breeder near me had imported a dog with CA, this led to it being prevalent in the breed at the time and put me off
getting one, still think they are lovely dogs but it is still given as a health issue.
Breed club has strict rules on breeding from dogs shown to have the problem.

I've also seen rescue dogs that have evidently had more then the 4 litters the KC allows a bitch. That rather suggests that some unscrupulous breeders have registered litters to the wrong parents. How you avoid inbreeding in future generations with that going on lord only knows.

Yep or registering more pups then the bitch produced so that can pass other pups as that litter

 

[boyfalldown]

Many years ago I fell in love with Spinones, at the time they weren't numerically big in the UK, but research and asking around I found
out that a foundation breeder near me had imported a dog with CA, this led to it being prevalent in the breed at the time and put me off
getting one, still think they are lovely dogs but it is still given as a health issue.
Breed club has strict rules on breeding from dogs shown to have the problem.

Spinones are gorgeous. I love that mournful look they have and that laid back personality. I know a couple of people working them. They tell me the CA has been largely bred out but epilepsy is a problem in some lines and not much is being done to resolve that.

 

[Gremlin]

Spinones are gorgeous. I love that mournful look they have and that laid back personality. I know a couple of people working them. They tell me the CA has been largely bred out but epilepsy is a problem in some lines and not much is being done to resolve that.

That's good to hear, it was quite a problem when I was looking at getting one, not sure I have the time for one now.
I did end up with a rescue/foster GSP that never left due to problems bought about partly by his early upbringing and
partly by his breeding. Still miss him despite the scars

 

[boyfalldown]

That's good to hear, it was quite a problem when I was looking at getting one, not sure I have the time for one now.

It’s unforgivable. CA is only a £40 gene test and it’s gone in a generation

 

[scottduffy]

Well today I won round one of the case which was to determine whether we had enough to carry on to a full hearing. Pretty daunting standing up in court for the first time but was okay when the questions started. I think now though we'll liaise with professionals as the sheriff bamboozled both sides with legal questioning that we just didn't have answers to.

First being why a case like this was tried near the peruseant and not in the jurisdiction of the defendant. I didn't know better when I lodged the case as I took advice from trading standards and luckily because they didn't query this it can be heard up here rather than down south.

Fingers crossed all goes well.

 

[boyfalldown]

First being why a case like this was tried near the peruseant and not in the jurisdiction of the defendant.

I guess from the rest of your comment you're perusing this is a Sheriff's court in Scotland rather then the county courts in England. I guess they're useing the Sheriff's court closest to you as there just won't be one near the defendant. Had you used the county court in England it would, by default, have moved clover to the defendant.

 

[scottduffy]

The reason I lodged it at the sheriff court near me was partly because I didn't know any better but also I spoke to trading standards in the defendants city and they told me to lodge it at my local court. I really don't know anything about courts or legal processes and that's why I'll need to get help from a proper lawyer. Unsure how much it will cost though and whether it'll be worthwhile.

 

[camerassassin]

You may well find that a ' local ' solicitor may be helpful.

I had to take my local Council to the Small Claims Court some time ago - and I was stunned when I was made to sit at the Solicitors' table when my case was called. Solicitor beside me was looking sideways at my papers and silently egging me on , pointing out stuff to emphasise and generally actually being incredibly helpful. Yes I won and the comments made by the Sheriff to the Council about bringing the case were very very pointed .

 

[scottduffy]

You may well find that a ' local ' solicitor may be helpful.

I had to take my local Council to the Small Claims Court some time ago - and I was stunned when I was made to sit at the Solicitors' table when my case was called. Solicitor beside me was looking sideways at my papers and silently egging me on , pointing out stuff to emphasise and generally actually being incredibly helpful. Yes I won and the comments made by the Sheriff to the Council about bringing the case were very very pointed .

I was more nervous about standing in the correct place than putting across the case. The first few cases were all argued by lawyers who were indeed sitting at one table. When I was called one of them motioned to me to stand at the end of their table and then the sheriff told me to sit with them opposite the defendant. Once the formalities were concluded it was okay.

What didn't really help was that when I contacted the court some weeks ago the lady I spoke with told me all my evidence was for the next stage if it got there but any time I mentioned a point or document to the sheriff he said I've never seen this or that and I explained that I was told I didn't need it but had a copy with me so he had to read them all in real time.