Defeated by eBay Ai

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So Ai is everywhere now, and it's clearly not fit for purpose.
Every day I read some nonsense on the Sky News website, where Ai doesn't understand grammar or where a sentence just doesn't make sense.
However it got me beat today when listing an item on eBay, the listing was returned as contravening eBay listing policies as I was trying to sell outside of eBay - really?
I read it, re-read it and read it again but nothing could be interpreted as me trying to illicit an outside sale.
At great length I managed to speak with an agent, who couldn't tell me what I had done wrong but would refer up and get it resolved for me - nothing!
Made contact again today and apparently Ai could be seeing a battery number in one of my photos (yes of a battery) and interpreting it as a telephone number, website or other contact number!
I could delete the photo and try again.
"But isn't the photo an integral part of the sale?", I asked.
"Yes, but Ai isn't seeing it that way".
"Well you can see it with your own eyes, can't you do anything about it?"
"I'll have to refer it up"!

Honestly you couldn't make it up - tell me again how Ai is going to save the world? :headbang:
 
Part of the problem is at much of what is marketed as 'AI' is certainly artificial, but is nothing to do with intelligence - it's just a marketing term applied to a complex algorithm.
So in your case it's found a number but lacks the 'intelligence' to know they are something legitimate in the image.
 
I bought something last week on e.bay but Ai wouldn’t let the seller print a label . In the end we agreed to cancel the purchase but the message service was open , so I paid him what he asked , £10 less than my winning bid ,sent him payment by PP and it arrived 2 days later as new condition as well . They have shot themselves in the foot..
And they are definitely losing customers with the new buyer charges got a lens Sunday night usually go for £200 plus in the condition it’s in and got it for £42 well chuffed
 
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the black fox said:
I bought something last week on e.bay but Ai wouldn’t let the seller print a label . In the end we agreed to cancel the purchase but the message service was open , so I paid him what he asked , £10 less than my winning bid ,sent him payment by PP and it arrived 2 days later as new condition as well . They have shot themselves in the foot..
And they are definitely losing customers with the new buyer charges got a lens Sunday night usually go for £200 plus in the condition it’s in and got it for £42 well chuffed
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24 hours and if it's not resolved I'll be closing my account after 20 years.
 
Wait until your every phone call goes to chatgpt or Gemini. This is almost guaranteed, and people are apparently making a killing assembling these ai agents for business.

The real problem is crap in - crap out. Also works with real humans. Don't ask how I know
 
gramps said:
Every day I read some nonsense on the Sky News website, where Ai doesn't understand grammar or where a sentence just doesn't make sense
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This actually sounds like some poor staffer slept through school and can't speak let alone write proper English. Don't even get me started on clickbait headlines with totally different content inside and pretty much rabid fake news all-round
 
Resolved today whilst attempting to close account.
 
ecoleman said:
Amazing what can be achieved once the mind has been focused by the threat of account closure.
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Indeed, four people and two chatbots to 'whitelist' me - after 20 years trading!
 
Faldrax said:
Part of the problem is at much of what is marketed as 'AI' is certainly artificial, but is nothing to do with intelligence - it's just a marketing term applied to a complex algorithm.
So in your case it's found a number but lacks the 'intelligence' to know they are something legitimate in the image.
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This^
I railed here years ago about an ‘AI sky swap’ that whilst the edge detection was certainly very good, the sun was in the wrong place for the foreground so it couldn’t be described as ‘intelligent’.
And whilst things are moving at a terrific pace, there’s still no evidence to me that ‘AI’ is a reality.
Everything I see written by AI looks like it’s written by AI,, none of it is fit for purpose
 
Phil V said:
Everything I see written by AI looks like it’s written by AI,, none of it is fit for purpose
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I agree and the worrying thing is that soon everything will be run or partially run by it.
I guess, by the fact that it seems to learn from the Internet, that there is every reason to be worried!
 
gramps said:
I agree and the worrying thing is that soon everything will be run or partially run by it.
I guess, by the fact that it seems to learn from the Internet, that there is every reason to be worried!
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The danger is the same as all information found on the internet. Much of it is wrong, much of it is infinitely repeated. Some unchecked some intentional disinformation, much out dated and never corrected. And all this is fed to Ai. And regurgitated by it.
It is surprising that Ai gets as much right as it does.
 
eBay it's Vinted2 now, maybe even worse. A seller doesn't have that many rights and the buyer can be very fussy as the new rules will always on their side. They can easily return an item for whatever reason they can find and the seller will be out of pocket because of the postage involved.
 
I listed a couple of ceiling & wall lights after we changed our dining room lighting.

I'll use the AI listing I thought. It'll look at what I'm selling; categorise and compose the listing for me.

They said it would be fine in Automotive Lighting. Apparently they'll fit all car models but especially a Volvo
 
Sounds like some of the new generation of programmers have forgotten(never been taught) GIGO. The evidence so far suggests a bit of Grey Matter is not programmed correctly to perform efficiently :D
 
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