Decision Time - Buy a 6D and lens or 5D3??

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As the title says..

Do i splash out on a 5d3 and stick with my 24-105L?

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Do i buy a 6D and 16-35L?

HELP!
 
I originally was looking at the 6D and kit lens ended up with the 5d3 and kit lens, It will do more than i am ever able to ask of it but there was a few things which i kind of wanted and expected from a decent body, the 6d didnt have those !
 
Im edging towards the 5d3, from what i have picked up from here its such a better camera...
 
Russ what do you shoot with at the moment? What are you planning on shooting?

Jeff.
 
I am not quite clear on what you end up with.Is it a 5D3 +24-105 or a 6D+16-35 + 24-105
If its the latter do you need f2.8?, if not could you run to a 5D3+17-40?
 
I currently shoot with a 60d, People, Lanscapes, Lots of night time stuff. Been asked to do a few weddings next year for friends etc.
 
troutfisher said:
I am not quite clear on what you end up with.Is it a 5D3 +24-105 or a 6D+16-35 + 24-105
If its the latter do you need f2.8?, if not could you run to a 5D3+17-40?
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I dont really need the 2.8, im loosing my 10-20mm sigma for landscapes, so would need something wider than 24mm
 
i have a 60d and had the same choice to make.i went for the 5d3 and bought a 50mm prime1.4
 
May be worth remembering that the 24mm on full frame will be the same as a 15mm on the crop body
 
I have recently posted a similar post regarding moving to FF from the 60D, although I was comparing FF Bodies between 5D MkIII, 6D, used 1DS Mk III and used 5D Mk II.

I came to the conclusion that if (and its a big if) you can do without the better AF of the 5D MkIII then the 6D was the way ahead, cost wise esp, pic quality was about the same, the 6D was better in low light. Although it is a big if, as I also like bird photography and therefore the 6D would be a compromise to some extent, although my landscape needs would be satisfied (I already have the 16-35 MkII).

<edit> Just to add, if I was in your shoes (and had the cash), it would be the 5D MkIII.
 
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Davemm said:
May be worth remembering that the 24mm on full frame will be the same as a 15mm on the crop body
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The sigma i have is designed for a crop body, and it a true 10-20mm? correct me if im wrong..
 
As you rightly say that's true but depending on the sensor size the lens would be a 16-32mm equivalent if going to a full frame length

Either way the 5d3 is a stunning camera and im only just getting to grips with mine
 
As said, if you have the cash you're unlikely to regret a 5D3. Having said that the 6D seems to be a very fine camera as well (not that I've used one)
 
Russ said:
As the title says..

Do i splash out on a 5d3 and stick with my 24-105L?

or

Do i buy a 6D and 16-35L?

HELP!
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I was faced with a similar situation, I chose the 53d-------One of the better decisions I have made, its a wonderful piece of equipment
 
MKIII would be my choice, bought and returned a 6D less than impressed, maybe I had a dodgy sample, but won't be trying again

Minor point, but apart from the poor IQ didn't like the control pad/wheel that replaces the larger wheel and joystick arrangement
 
Russ said:
I currently shoot with a 60d, People, Lanscapes, Lots of night time stuff. Been asked to do a few weddings next year for friends etc.
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As others have said unless you shoot fast moving subjects and use all the AF points. If you only use the centre AF point then the 6D may be the better option. By all accounts the high ISO performance is better, also the low light focusing is better (using the centre AF point).

Russ said:
I dont really need the 2.8
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With reference to the weddings and low light, you may want to think about this. At a recent wedding, I was shooting at f/2.8 ISO 1600 and was getting shutter speeds of 1/8, 1/16. I ended up bumping up the ISO or using a speedlight just to get the shots and even then some were blurred.
 
ChrisHeathcote said:
As others have said unless you shoot fast moving subjects and use all the AF points. If you only use the centre AF point then the 6D may be the better option. By all accounts the high ISO performance is better, also the low light focusing is better (using the centre AF point).



With reference to the weddings and low light, you may want to think about this. At a recent wedding, I was shooting at f/2.8 ISO 1600 and was getting shutter speeds of 1/8, 1/16. I ended up bumping up the ISO or using a speedlight just to get the shots and even then some were blurred.
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Your EXIF says you use a 60D for the weddings shots on flickr?
 
Just you made a point about f2.8 and ISO. But on a crop sensor. On a ff sensor especially the 6d and 5d3 the low light capabilities are much better than on a 60d.

(I have one, I wouldn't be upgrading otherwise)
 
tijuana taxi said:
MKIII would be my choice, bought and returned a 6D less than impressed, maybe I had a dodgy sample, but won't be trying again

Minor point, but apart from the poor IQ didn't like the control pad/wheel that replaces the larger wheel and joystick arrangement
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Poor IQ? I'm pretty sure your 6D was broken.

Wayne Els said:
I had the same choice and bought a 6D. Allegedly better sensor, great high ISO and lighter. I didn't need the AF though as I don't tend to shoot things that move. Your needs may differ.
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I got it for the same reasons. In my experience the AF is fine for most things that move. If you're into shooting birds or footballers then presumably the 5DIII is the better bet, otherwise the 6D is good. That centre point could lock onto a blackbird in a coal mine (lens permitting).
 
I bought the 5D3.

I shoot things that move in low light, and I like AF points covering a good portion of the frame.
 
Russ said:
The sigma i have is designed for a crop body, and it a true 10-20mm? correct me if im wrong..
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The focal length is 10mm, but you still have to factor in the relative crop factor even on a crop designed lens. So the equivalent on an FF camera will be circa 16mm.
 
tijuana taxi said:
MKIII would be my choice, bought and returned a 6D less than impressed, maybe I had a dodgy sample, but won't be trying again

Minor point, but apart from the poor IQ didn't like the control pad/wheel that replaces the larger wheel and joystick arrangement
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I think we established there was something very wrong with the 6d you had!
 
Russ said:
Just you made a point about f2.8 and ISO. But on a crop sensor. On a ff sensor especially the 6d and 5d3 the low light capabilities are much better than on a 60d.

(I have one, I wouldn't be upgrading otherwise)
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The crop factor effects the effective focal length. Although ff will produce less noise at higher ISO. The meter reading would still be the same
 
I think we established there was something very wrong with the 6d you had!
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Fair point and yes it did seem to be a duff sample.

Kind of pleased it was, as I mentioned earlier didn't find the wheel/pad easy to use and was a bit surprised just how plasticky the 6D body appeared to be (apparently top plate has to be for wi-fi reasons)

In the end picked up a used MKII for approx half the price of a 6D and my next upgrade would definitely be the MKIII
 
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Ive got a 5D3 and its a great camera but if you dont need the advanced AF then the 6D wont dissapoint. Its a fine camera and the results ive seen from it dont lose ut to the 5D£ at all. As for the handling of the 2 cameras I would suggest that you go and have a look at both, see if the different layouts work for you and which is better.
 
tijuana taxi said:
Fair point and yes it did seem to be a duff sample.

Kind of pleased it was, as I mentioned earlier didn't find the wheel/pad easy to use and was a bit surprised just how plasticky the 6D body appeared to be (apparently top plate has to be for wi-fi reasons)

In the end picked up a used MKII for approx half the price of a 6D and my next upgrade would definitely be the MKIII
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You've said... many times, in many forums here :clap:

Unless you're a pro tog I can't really see the justification in price over the 6D but granted for most people the 5D III is a better camera.
 
For me my 5D3 was the best buy i ever made and i simply love it, i started with a 24-105 and it produced better pictures than my second lens which was a 24-70 f2.8 MK1 however if you want perfection save save save for the 24-70 f2.8 mkii as its outstanding on a 5D3
 
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