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Watching Panorama TV program and it's all about artificial intelligence and information and data stored. The Panorama episode is called Are you scared yet, human?
Absolutely mind boggling, the amount of data that has already been saved and stored. They reckon within a few years, a computer will be able out think a human.

They also reckon, within a few years a computer / artificial intelligence, will be able to predict your next move. Really, how?

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Would be handy if the artificial intelligence could get my breakfast cooked, and get the house work and gardening done for me.

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It would be even more impressive, if the artificial intelligence knew, what I wanted for breakfast on any given day.
 
Fuji Dave said:
We are all doomed..lol

On a more serious note it will all happen one day.
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It is amazing all the data they save, then analyse to learn more about us all. They probably know more about us, than our partners do. :eek:
 
They are tweaking Alexa, this is so it can hold a highly intelligent conversation with a human, providing the human is also highly intelligent. lol
 
jonbeeza said:
They are tweaking Alexa, this is so it can hold a highly intelligent conversation with a human, providing the human is also highly intelligent. lol
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That rules me out then
 
For about 60 or 70 years people have been predicting that computers will be capable of "thought", is hasn't happened yet and probably won't. The thing that computer scientists fail to understand is that our brains are not electronic or digital.

jonbeeza said:
They reckon within a few years, a computer will be able out think a human.
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Depends what "think" means, for very limited cases, playing chess, playing Go, doing repetitive maths, they already can.

jonbeeza said:
They also reckon, within a few years a computer / artificial intelligence, will be able to predict your next move. Really, how?
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jonbeeza said:
It would be even more impressive, if the artificial intelligence knew, what I wanted for breakfast on any given day.
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Depends how much you let them track you. Most people do very similar things on a regular basis, go to work, come home, eat, sleep. There are probably also other predictors such as what you eat for breakfast after a night in the pub as opposed to what you eat on a work day.

Modern AI is quite useful but it is nothing like "intelligent", not even close. Some researchers demonstrated this with a small sticker that they could put on any image and an AI would define the image as being a picture of a toaster, no matter what the actual picture was of. What people are defining as AI is actually pattern matching, very clever, adaptive pattern matching but nothing more, it can't think and an AI tuned for say image matching cannot recognise speech.
 
As always, technology is fine as an aid to decision-making, the problems arise when the actual decisions are delegated to the technology.
I watched the programme, and one of the examples was the interrogation of suspects, who were strapped to a "restraint chair" and AI was then used to calculate their level of stress under questioning, with the assumption that if someone showed signs of stress then they must be guilty.

Another example, closer to home, may be the AI used by companies such as Amazon (which for sellers is a nightmare) because the so-called intelligence makes its own decisions - for example making a product invisible to buyers, deciding that the seller is a fraudster or has breached someone else's intellectual property rights. There is then a complicated and pointless appeal process, where the appellant has to try to convince the same robot that it got it wrong. And, finally, when that fails, it's possible to speak to a human, but the human is usually a new employee aged 23 who has a degree in hairdressing and who isn't capable of understanding the issues.
 
Would be scary if we let Artificial Intelligence control too much, just imagine if the computers got so intelligent, it told us what to do.
Computer intelligence may even be able to lock humans out the system, then control everything, such as the whole power infrastructure.
 
Well actually it's no longer Science Fiction, it is Science reality.
 
sirch said:
What people are defining as AI is actually pattern matching, very clever, adaptive pattern matching but nothing more, it can't think and an AI tuned for say image matching cannot recognise speech.
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I did some work on pattern matching several years ago. At that time, it came down to storing large numbers of cases and we used Sybase to hold the data, because it had a decent interface to "C". The project never really went anywhere, according to a colleague who stayed on after I left,

My guess is that true machine intelligence will only get somewhere if they can duplicate a human neural network. The question then arises: will such a network be subject to the same problems as our brains? If so, the whole thing will be a waste of time. It seems more likely that the current trend to DAI (dumb artificial intelligence*) will continue, because it's much more usefull.

* I just made that term up! :naughty:
 
It will be a scary day, when they can produce a cyborg / robot, that is more efficient than a human.
 
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sirch said:
Depends how much you let them track you. Most people do very similar things on a regular basis, go to work, come home, eat, sleep.
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My life is as predictable as my golf... In an ideal world, it's fairly regular but IRL is a different matter! Siri and Alexa have no chance here.
 
jonbeeza said:
Watching Panorama TV program and it's all about artificial intelligence and information and data stored. The Panorama episode is called Are you scared yet, human?
Absolutely mind boggling, the amount of data that has already been saved and stored. They reckon within a few years, a computer will be able out think a human.
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If I recall the stat correctly, "human like" AI has been 10 or so years away for the last 70 years. It still is.

If you want to get really worried then think about this one: Amazon are not primarily a company that sells things, they are a data company. Think about all the stuff in your house that came from Amazon. That's their side hustle.
 
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