Cropping, aspect ratio, freedom

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I take images of events. Most of them are unlikely to be printed, but some of them might be. Most of them are used online, as far as I know.

So I tend to crop to subject, rather than to a particular aspect ratio for printing.

Would be interested to hear thoughts...
 
As always this depends.

I routinely crop 1;1, 5:4 (or 4:3) and 2:1, as I feel comfortable with these shapes, and visualise this range of shapes when composing. I couldn't compose without some idea of the final crop, but equally understand why people like the freedom to custom crop at the processing stage, even though I prefer working to the constraints of fixed ratios. But it's not an unbreakable rule, just my default position.

I generally dislike the 3:2 ratio, especially for vertical images, yet it seems "right" for horizontal street type photography. Probably because I'm used to seeing lots of 35mm "no-crop" street photographs. I rarely use this ratio.

Some people choose fixed ratios so the prints fit into standard frame sizes, but as framed pictures are nearly always in a matt that can be cut to a custom aperture I've never fully understood that argument. Maybe some of the modern prints on metal etc only come as fixed sizes, or they mean standard pre-cut matt sizes.

With analogue, the print shape was sometimes dictated by the spurious subject matter at the edge, and one of the things I like about digital is that I can freely compose the image and clone out spurious edge details (if needed), which gives a more compositional control.

If it's a series of images, I prefer seeing them restricted to small range of consistent image ratios, or even only one; maybe that is too restrictive. I find it a bit disturbing if every image is a different ratio. The exception to this is a book where the design has actively used different image ratios as part of the overall design. Or, of course where the jarring of multiple image sizes has been deliberately used as part of the message.

With events, I can see why custom crops could be desirable, It's the quickest and cheapest way of getting focus on the subject.

An exception might be when a specific ratio is asked for. In the days when I did wedding photographs and we sent a "print' of the happy couple to the press, the published page(s) of wedding photographs were often a block of identically shaped and sized images., and I'm sure some of them specified the exact print size/format they required.

With events, If someone want's a print, would they not come back to you to ask for one? You could then rethink the crop and use other tools ( e.g. cloning) to make it a more standard size.

Or are you expecting your clients to print, or get printed, any files you have given them?. Do you offer prints as part of the service, and therefore expect clients fo come back to you? Have clients complained that prints cut off part of the image?

This has of course always been an issue, as back in the analogue days we tended to use 10 x 8 as our standard, but people would order, say a 7x5 prints which would often give us problems to print, as we had composed on the basis of a much "fatter" 10 x 8 ratio.
 
Some really interesting points there, thanks.

Usage is shared between online and print - (rather than prints) and hte client's needs for the printing seem to be met, judging by their usage!

And you made the point about framed pics usually having a matt, also I realised that frames are made to order - so can easily follow the chosen aspect ration of a printed photos.
 
And you made the point about framed pics usually having a matt, also I realised that frames are made to order - so can easily follow the chosen aspect ration of a printed photos.
I think the issue. with the frames is that "off the shelf" frames with pre-cut matts, are much, much, much cheaper than custom made frames, at least they used to be.

So, how important it is to keep to standard sizes probably depends on the type of photograph and the market you are selling to.

Having said that, Paul Reiffer who sells his prints from £995 recommends using standard sizes because of the big leap in framing costs if he offers custom sizes. I am offering no opinions on this, just repeating his advice.
 
I sometimes crop to 100% but the aspect ratio can vary depending on what I think is best for the individual picture. One thing I like to do is look at slideshows so I'll often crop to fill the whole screen.

I don't worry too much about the implications of printing at some point as I always keep the original file and even small files can make a nice A4 print for normal viewing.

Just on the subject of printing. I have a Medion compact which is frankly poor but I did print an A4 once and then put it away and forgot about it. Years later I came across it and I was surprised at how good it was and I had to remind myself what I took it with. Also, my sister once wanted a print from an old smartphone and as my printer was out of ink I took her to ASDA. The machine said that the picture was of too low a quality to print but the assistant fiddled and forced a print though and it looked fine when framed. The point of these stories is that even quite small files can make a nice print when viewed normally.
 
I always crop to the subject. My film sheets are standard, fixed sizes (5x4, 5x7, 10x8) but my subjects don't always conform to these ratios. If they do, then no crop; otherwise crop. I've got no problems with composing a 7x5 image on a10x8 sheet of film and cropping afterward if I need to use lens that requires my 10x8camera for which I have no reducing back.

I expect a lot of panoramas are produced by cropping as well as stitching.
 
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