Cropping and the number of pixels.....

[Phil-D]

I've been having IQ issues over the last 12 months when posting to TP, it turns out it was Firefox and how it hosts on TP??......or sumot or another .......anyway that problem has now been solved by using Google Chrome as a browser

Getting round to the reason for posting, Dave @Dave Semmens noticed that when I crop an image with a width of 4928 and a height of 3264, it stays the same size as the original, how ever heavy the crop maybe, is this ok or should the pixel dimensions of a photo change with cropping?

I'm using E11, can't find anything to correct it, if it needs correcting? but that's not to say I'm not missing sumot

Cheers

 

[stupar]

Are you using photoshop/lightoom to edit your RAW files?
If so then in Adobe Camera RAW there is a link at the bottom for setting workflow presets, see link below
https://photofocus.com/2016/04/21/workflow-options-in-adobe-camera-raw/

It is something to do with the image sizing part, either the "resize to fit" box or the "dont enlarge" box.
Im pretty sure if you untick the "resize to fit" box all future crops will show the reduction in pixels accordingly.

Hope this helps!

 

[Phil-D]

@stupar

Thanks for the reply Stuart. I do edit in ACR but with E11 you just get the basic version??.... I know I've seen the version that comes with Photoshop and there's certainly more options

What I tend to do is work on the raw file, open to E11, do anything other adjustments there, say selective sharpening using layers, then I crop.

What I'm unsure about is whether the dimensions of the photo should be automatically scaled down or whether the dimensions even matter when just cropping and not resizing , cheers

 

[stupar]

@stupar

Thanks for the reply Stuart. I do edit in ACR but with E11 you just get the basic version??.... I know I've seen the version that comes with Photoshop and there's certainly more options

What I tend to do is work on the raw file, open to E11, do anything other adjustments there, say selective sharpening using layers, then I crop.

What I'm unsure about is whether the dimensions of the photo should be automatically scaled down or whether the dimensions even matter when just cropping and not resizing , cheers

Im stumped then and have no understanding of elements 11.
I think the scenario you suggest is still along the lines of what i mention its more a case of how you get to the additional settings within camera RAW.
I dont suppose there are any additonal settings available in the "bit depth" drop down box at the bottom is there?

 

[Phil-D]

I dont suppose there are any additonal settings available in the "bit depth" drop down box at the bottom is there?

No, just 8 or 16 bit depth.

I've had a Google to see if I could find the answer but couldn't, I'm sure there must be a way but I seem to be just missing it somewhere, cheers

 

[stupar]

No, just 8 or 16 bit depth.

I've had a Google to see if I could find the answer but couldn't, I'm sure there must be a way but I seem to be just missing it somewhere, cheers

Hopefully someone else will come along with some assistance.

 

[sk66]

What I'm unsure about is whether the dimensions of the photo should be automatically scaled down or whether the dimensions even matter when just cropping and not resizing , cheers

If the pixel dimensions are not changing then the image *IS* being resized/resampled... it is being up-sampled and that will have a (somewhat/variable) negative impact. If you are using the cropping tool with some kind of preset (i.e. 5x7@300ppi) that may be causing it.

Edit: if you are setting the crop tool to pixel dimensions, that is the "crop output dimensions" in pixels... i.e. up or down sampling to desired output pixels.

 

[Phil-D]

Thanks for the replies, I think I've just solved the problem, looks like I was missing the obvious

When I select the crop tool, it gives me an option of crop ratios, when I click 'use photo ratio' the resolution stays the same @ 300 pixels/inch. If I clear that and leave it blank, it automatically adjust the dimensions of the pixels to the size of crop, sorted

 

[wookie6262]

You could always define the number of pixels after cropping. IN PS I use the shortcut CTRL-Alt-I and just type the pixels I want on the longer length.