Country file today

[Stuart Philpott]

Guys if you can't get to it now watch on I player please, Simon king et al, talking wildlife toggin ,

Merry chimbo guys lol HNY? well ya know........................ We'll see

take care

stu

 

[Box Brownie]

Saw another heads up....I think..................set the recorder for Ch 101 HD

 

[gramps]

Guys if you can't get to it now watch on I player please, Simon king et al, talking wildlife toggin ,

Merry chimbo guys lol HNY? well ya know........................ We'll see

take care

stu

Keep up Stu

 

[Stuart Philpott]

Simon King was talking Laurence.......................so many areas touched on. There will be something for anyone interested in nature image making in tonight's CF programme ...............well I think so...................... we'll see
.

It was a heads up buddy, Well and an excuse for good wishes..........OMG I'm sorry............................... in my defense I was also trying to do other ,erm STUFF I can multi task up to 4 or 5 mate most whom hit the tubs can........... after that everything goes a bit sideways ..... I'm a bit vague huh? Ahh well me heart's in the right place !!

Roger I'm always up apart from when I'm in the mud, it's telling the difference, that's the art of it all Both hope your having a lovely chrimbo

In that CF espisode Simon touched on something that haunts me: and that's gaining an animal's trust A really sodding mad wild thing can take, so long, ,so long one never believes it could happen,

When it does I'm always left wondering if what I've done weakens that flight response in my subject, to humans that might harm it. That really messes with me, so them talking about making chicken noises approaching wild red deer had me in stitches.


I try not admit here I talk to animals, basically wildlife togs are a bit freaking serious for such things.............

This year I think I learnt it's ok to admit to making fox images in ya boxers though, which sort of surprised me Maybe my toggin morals are compromised ?

Oh he knows EXACTLY who he is merry chrimbo buddy to me I shouldn't mention names it's not cricket

But back to topic and serious for a mo: a really thought provoking CF for me:
sure I've had a crack with it as is my way but that bit about trust and how it might effect my subject really does haunt ,me.

I have never hunted deer it would be carnage............................... But I use almost all the same techniques bar a high seat a deer stalker would. as an image maker.

Two similarly dressed guys. essentially trying to get close ............................One method results in a hopeful stolen soul the other death.

How I make "me " different to a deer, than a hunter , or a hare for that matter or charlie, drives me nuts at times!! It really boils down to how able they are to identify us humans as individuals. I suppose???????????. Hell I dunno but it bugs me !!




have a nice break both

 

[Bebop]

I try not admit here I talk to animals, basically wildlife togs are a bit freaking serious for such things.............

This year I think I learnt it's ok to admit to making fox images in ya boxers though, which sort of surprised me Maybe my toggin morals are compromised ?

That made me chuckle... I certainly talk to Connell the pheasant when I feed him, and I'm frequently sat on my back step in my PJs photographing the red squirrels.

I've just watched a whole episode of Countryfile and there was no Simon King in it - I must have watched last weeks

 

[gramps]

I've just watched a whole episode of Countryfile and there was no Simon King in it - I must have watched last weeks

That's what happens when you sit on the step in your PJ's ... my old mum always warned me about that when I was a kid!

 

[Box Brownie]

Stu

I am glad I am not the only one who talks to the animals.....even through the kitchen windows.

Of course I never expect an answer......I am not bonkers, you know but for me it is part of the 'being in the same space as the other creatures we share the blue bauble with.....'. All nature has its awe moments

 

[Dale.]

Simon King was talking Laurence.......................so many areas touched on. There will be something for anyone interested in nature image making in tonight's CF programme ...............well I think so...................... we'll see
.

It was a heads up buddy, Well and an excuse for good wishes..........OMG I'm sorry............................... in my defense I was also trying to do other ,erm STUFF I can multi task up to 4 or 5 mate most whom hit the tubs can........... after that everything goes a bit sideways ..... I'm a bit vague huh? Ahh well me heart's in the right place !!

Roger I'm always up apart from when I'm in the mud, it's telling the difference, that's the art of it all Both hope your having a lovely chrimbo

In that CF espisode Simon touched on something that haunts me: and that's gaining an animal's trust A really sodding mad wild thing can take, so long, ,so long one never believes it could happen,

When it does I'm always left wondering if what I've done weakens that flight response in my subject, to humans that might harm it. That really messes with me, so them talking about making chicken noises approaching wild red deer had me in stitches.


I try not admit here I talk to animals, basically wildlife togs are a bit freaking serious for such things.............

This year I think I learnt it's ok to admit to making fox images in ya boxers though, which sort of surprised me Maybe my toggin morals are compromised ?

Oh he knows EXACTLY who he is merry chrimbo buddy to me I shouldn't mention names it's not cricket

But back to topic and serious for a mo: a really thought provoking CF for me:
sure I've had a crack with it as is my way but that bit about trust and how it might effect my subject really does haunt ,me.

I have never hunted deer it would be carnage............................... But I use almost all the same techniques bar a high seat a deer stalker would. as an image maker.

Two similarly dressed guys. essentially trying to get close ............................One method results in a hopeful stolen soul the other death.

How I make "me " different to a deer, than a hunter , or a hare for that matter or charlie, drives me nuts at times!! It really boils down to how able they are to identify us humans as individuals. I suppose???????????. Hell I dunno but it bugs me !!




have a nice break both

I've been grappling with this for a couple of weeks now. My fox, practically eating out of my hand through an open back door, which raised questions for me. He has made it easy, from the timid animal that showed up 6 weeks or so ago now ( just had to stop typing this as he's just turned up) to the much more confident animal towards me. When the fox came in for a few nights at first, I'd promised myself then that I wouldn't get him too trusting of me. It has happened though, although in my defence a little, he really has made it easy. My wife and daughter often watch too as I feed him, at a distance of course and I've told them the rules.

A few nights ago, I'm sure it was just coincidence, I was feeding him as normal and his head just turned, in that way you know an animal is alarmed, I didn't really know why. It wasn't the normal (for him) head turn, he meant business this time, something was up. A few seconds later, I heard my neighbour's footsteps on their yard and with that, the fox was off and he meant it, he just melted away.

The same thing happened 2 nights later.


I think wild animals know to an extent, the point Simon raised about doing something unique and consistent rings true I think, the first sign of something amiss and my fox was off.

I was relieved the fox left that night, I don't want him to lose that instinct, although I did worry that he may not come back. He did though and as mentioned, I've only just fed him tonight.

I've even bought him frozen day old chicks, he loves them, how soft am I?

 

[Stuart Philpott]

That made me chuckle... I certainly talk to Connell the pheasant when I feed him, and I'm frequently sat on my back step in my PJs photographing the red squirrels.

I've just watched a whole episode of Countryfile and there was no Simon King in it - I must have watched last weeks

Bee I genuinyl though it was me for a mo, hmm wrong programme opps sorry mate Mind watch the wrong thing for ages waiting for a gem.... hmm you are not alone !! Do find it mate he's a clever man.

Ha I was very distracted I've just put a little tadpole (slightly special ) into water,if I can get it feeding IF ........ within a week or so it will know my voice and do what we call a tad dance, to me when it is hungry . It's a behaviour designed to provoke its mum to lay it eggs for it to eat . . Sort of Pavlovain but not with dogs it's a tiny blob of jelly with a tail........ a frog a week or so into it's life . I don't think we know the half of what goes on in these animals heads,yet I can't back those hunches with any real science ,ha so I worry as ya do

.So yeah I was talking to a tadpole, trying to get the sod to eat an egg

Did I start a chimbo confession here.

Dale Laurence forgive me lads tis late I'm so slow typing speak soon,. We might just get snow here tomorrow hoping to get out with cam haven't had chance for ages now


take care guys ha funny red squggs in pj's Roger's mum was probably right !!

 

[Bebop]

I'm sure it was my fault @Stuart Philpott, although I did look afterwards and still didn't find it. I used to watch it every week but have dropped out of the habit - I will have another look tomorrow. On the plus side, they had a bit about cyanotype printing and I quite fancy having a go at that and I learnt a little about Wordsworth

Good luck with your egg eating tadpole

I think it's time I went to bed....

 

[gramps]

I've been grappling with this for a couple of weeks now. My fox, practically eating out of my hand through an open back door, which raised questions for me. He has made it easy, from the timid animal that showed up 6 weeks or so ago now ( just had to stop typing this as he's just turned up) to the much more confident animal towards me. When the fox came in for a few nights at first, I'd promised myself then that I wouldn't get him too trusting of me. It has happened though, although in my defence a little, he really has made it easy. My wife and daughter often watch too as I feed him, at a distance of course and I've told them the rules.

A few nights ago, I'm sure it was just coincidence, I was feeding him as normal and his head just turned, in that way you know an animal is alarmed, I didn't really know why. It wasn't the normal (for him) head turn, he meant business this time, something was up. A few seconds later, I heard my neighbour's footsteps on their yard and with that, the fox was off and he meant it, he just melted away.

The same thing happened 2 nights later.


I think wild animals know to an extent, the point Simon raised about doing something unique and consistent rings true I think, the first sign of something amiss and my fox was off.

I was relieved the fox left that night, I don't want him to lose that instinct, although I did worry that he may not come back. He did though and as mentioned, I've only just fed him tonight.

I've even bought him frozen day old chicks, he loves them, how soft am I?

He's still a wild animal Dale ... he's just using you!
As in Countryfile with the visit to the British Wildlife Centre, the Foxes can be hand fed and are visited daily but they are still wild and retain all of the instincts of a wild animal.

 

[jerry12953]

Enjoyed the Countryfuile prog with Simon King...... his recommendations regarding camera phones made me think a bit!

 

[Dale.]

He's still a wild animal Dale ... he's just using you!
As in Countryfile with the visit to the British Wildlife Centre, the Foxes can be hand fed and are visited daily but they are still wild and retain all of the instincts of a wild animal.

I think we saw this with the badgers too, they were obviously used to the setting of the hide etc but as soon as something was out of the ordinary, they disappeared.

This may not be the place for it but my neighbours are not the kindest of folk, I often wonder if wild animals sense this too.

 

[gramps]

I think we saw this with the badgers too, they were obviously used to the setting of the hide etc but as soon as something was out of the ordinary, they disappeared.

This may not be the place for it but my neighbours are not the kindest of folk, I often wonder if wild animals sense this too.

I think they are able to sense things like that.

 

[Gremlin]

I think we saw this with the badgers too, they were obviously used to the setting of the hide etc but as soon as something was out of the ordinary, they disappeared.

Badgers I can relate to, I used to frequent a sett site and they were perfectly ok with me being there,
used to put food down and they would emerge and stay a while before moving off to forage, bit scary
when one decides to come and sniff your feet !!
Took someone with me one evening and they peered out but went straight back in the sett

 

[Stuart Philpott]

I'm sure it was my fault @Stuart Philpott, although I did look afterwards and still didn't find it. I used to watch it every week but have dropped out of the habit - I will have another look tomorrow. On the plus side, they had a bit about cyanotype printing and I quite fancy having a go at that and I learnt a little about Wordsworth

Good luck with your egg eating tadpole

I think it's time I went to bed....

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I really do talk to tads mate, they genuinely do eat eggs I knew this was gonna go wrong Dancing tadpoles and me talking their's a receipe for a car crash, no one is gonna beleiev that ............ I know bit it's true


Bee these images are old really old made here at home not for crit but here's similar to what's happening now only mum is doing the work

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[/url]IMG_5397 by Stuart Philpott, on Flickr



if things work out
they come out of the water sort of like this
IMG_5377 by Stuart Philpott, on Flickr

size perspective from a 35mm film can in which it was reared

end up sort of like this

IMG_5620 by Stuart Philpott, on Flickr

Oophage histrionica ( var small redhead).............Oophaga is said to mean egg eater in latin, I'm stuffed with my own countries' language Bee, let alone latin:banghead: so cannot back the language info.

But yup, egg eating is a massively ingenious strategy to rear just a few kids , in very small bodies of water in this genus and they really do carry tadpoles , this is another Oophaga ,tis pumilio taking a kidlet to it's new home.

IMG_5516 by Stuart Philpott, on Flickr


I love mum nature Bee, she's so hard/cruel she makes me weep and yet the joy.........so astounding so strange ya couldn't make it up Coll ha still fighting with the little chap as is my want

 

[Stuart Philpott]

Enjoyed the Countryfuile prog with Simon King...... his recommendations regarding camera phones made me think a bit!

That's really cool Jerry ,you have this vast nouce of nature toggin ( ha forgive me bro you do ) and there was still abit to make you wonder

. As above he's a clever guy to me he spoke to alot of folks with differing abilities,

 

[Stuart Philpott]

I've been grappling with this for a couple of weeks now. My fox, practically eating out of my hand through an open back door, which raised questions for me. He has made it easy, from the timid animal that showed up 6 weeks or so ago now ( just had to stop typing this as he's just turned up) to the much more confident animal towards me. When the fox came in for a few nights at first, I'd promised myself then that I wouldn't get him too trusting of me. It has happened though, although in my defence a little, he really has made it easy. My wife and daughter often watch too as I feed him, at a distance of course and I've told them the rules.

A few nights ago, I'm sure it was just coincidence, I was feeding him as normal and his head just turned, in that way you know an animal is alarmed, I didn't really know why. It wasn't the normal (for him) head turn, he meant business this time, something was up. A few seconds later, I heard my neighbour's footsteps on their yard and with that, the fox was off and he meant it, he just melted away.

The same thing happened 2 nights later.


I think wild animals know to an extent, the point Simon raised about doing something unique and consistent rings true I think, the first sign of something amiss and my fox was off.

I was relieved the fox left that night, I don't want him to lose that instinct, although I did worry that he may not come back. He did though and as mentioned, I've only just fed him tonight.

I've even bought him frozen day old chicks, he loves them, how soft am I?

I just don't have answers Dale ( merry chrimbo bud) I don't change an animal from wild as hell.... it doesn't loose all it's instincts in stilled over millennia by it trusting me ,it's only tiny bits of behaviour............ that change .. It's those tiny bits that mess with me

Mate when we deal with animals as bright as a fox simply, I honestly believe we are dealing with individuals.

In my heart I don't think I could have changed my mum fox PK, she was never going to trust anyone

Yet We had the door open making images of a cub maybe a few yards away first time We encountered one , I could have really milked that bro. But not with mum mate ha ruddy fruit loop It was the hardest thing staying behind that door Dale, so hard.

My reasons were simple if I weakened them to others they would get shot. I've followed your thread mate tis ace TFS !!!!!!! had so much I wanted or had to do I've barely replied anywhere Lol this thread shouldn't really exist a testiment to me not keeping up

,I saw your concerns about him returning because you heard gunshot or rifle I forget? These were My worries when the foxes were visiting here mate .... is that it did I cause it?......... exactly those! Ha I'm also a poultyman Dale well was. I don't want to cause problems for other bird keepers. Lot's of fine lines here mate

Dale we have a serious intelligence in Vulpes,LMFAO i'm as sure as I can be a frog has the potential to know an individual let alone a ruddy fox, But I'm not 100% and that influences me and as above it haunts at times It's not rights and wrongs bro ,it's trying to have both ya cake and eat it. get the trust to work with and yet not endanger us or them . All our situations yours mine Rogers Des' et al are all different.................. just go softly with him bro

I so understand the trust though it's the buggers whom might harm him that's the worry

Ha............ We are all a bit soft mate. .

 

[Bebop]

Fabulous frog images @Stuart Philpott - enjoyed looking through your Flickr.

Oophaga is a great word ... will have to slip it in over breakfast one morning

 

[Stuart Philpott]

Thanks mate, as I say images made a good while back. I'm surprised by the comment, thank you

Ha I just wanted to show you a froggy and lifestyle, you might not know about how can a 2mm blob of jelly know me already ? how can a little one inch frog stash maybe 6 baybes 200 ffoot up a tree and then remember where they are and calculate their need for grub.


Little one is doing well Bee I'm upbeat for a realist, looks really good hmm maybe I shouldn't have written that but it does, time will tell. ,

Hmm what's latin for bacon??




@dale @gramps Ha how's this for irony.................. I waffle about charlie to Dale last night but I haven't seen charlie here for months no signs ,no used runs

. I have some voles here, you might have seen maybe an image or two? I nabbed a couple of sessions shot through the fake front door. posted a couple a frames Last night charlie tried to dig them out. I'd guess PK has been back checking what's here, maybe a cub , I know not but sure as houses early doors just before dawn a fox visited.

So I've strung some peanuts about as ya do.. .................... Ahh lads Shaz reckons we have boar here

Jeepers what a mess, ................

 

[gramps]

@dale @gramps Ha how's this for irony.................. I waffle about charlie to Dale last night but I haven't seen charlie here for months no signs ,no used runs

Haven't had my cameras running for a few days, was put off putting food out due to the rat but I think it's gone so put some more food out tonight and my two cameras activated ... we will see if there is any/much activity.