Considering a light blaster but after some advice

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I have been looking into using some creative gobo effects and have gotten a bit overwhelmed by the options available, so thought I'd ask if anyone that uses them could let me know their experiences and recommendations on which direction to go?

I would ideally like to use it on my studio lights (bowens mount) but I know a lot of options use speedlights - is there going to be a huge amount of difference in a studio setting? I would usually have just dismissed the speedlight versions due to the shape of the light after zooming the flash, but research I have done says otherwise and it seems like you can get pretty good coverage. The other ones I've found are chinese versions that are around the £120 mark, but apparently are heavy as hell and difficult to focus.

I don't mind a bit of DIY at all, so am happy to just make something if there's not going to be a great deal of difference between that and the manufactured type :) I have found a few plans made using a snoot and lens, one with a cannibalised 35mm camera, one with a wooden box and speedlight in the back, etc, etc.

Cheers in advance,

Mike (y)
 
Hi Mike,

I've got all of those :-/

The light blaster, despite it's seemingly basic form, is the best performing - when used with a speedlight, zoomed right in. Here's some tests a did a few years back:-
https://owenlloydphotography.com/lightblaster-tests/

I also have one of these:-

..and one of these:-

They both suffer the same problem as the Lightblaster does when used on a full size studio head - almost none of the light enters the tiny aperture at the back of the lens directly - as that aperture is in the centre of the circular tube. I bought the second one with it's own fixed lens , as I thought it may perform better with optics designed for the job rather than a tiny 50mm camera lens with a tiny rear element to gather the light. It's not really any better though, but a bit more convenient as it requires no assembly to use. The Lightblaster + AD200 produces about 1.5 stops more light than either of the others on 600J flash head.

To get a projection attachment to work efficiently on a studio head, it must be scaled up to suit the bigger lights. Neither of the two projectors sourced from Pixapro (they are available with other names on the side) are remotely the right scale to work well with a full size flash tube. They also have their reflectors mounted the wrong way round - more like a silver coated snoot cone..

I do have one that works:-

I think these are the ones you've seen before. It is pretty heavy - mainly due to having a large lump of hemispherical glass on the front. These "optics" are crude, and whilst you can get the centre of the gobo in focus, the edges tend to smear out. It is 2 stops brighter then either of the smaller projectors though, as the lens, gobos and apertures are all much bigger. It also has its reflector bowl the right way round. It can be a hard to focus due to the locking bolt moving the lens slightly when you tighten it, and the weight of the lens. It's not a big deal though tbh and I often want the pattern slightly soft anyway. If I need more light, (or need to spread the light over a wider area) I'll use this.

Both the Lightblaster and the EF mount Pixapro offering, have the advantage of easily swapping focal lengths to make the projected pattern bigger or smaller from a fixed distance. I often use a Nikon 18-35mm zoom on mine with an adapter which means I can fine-tune the pattern.

The Lightblaster is also able to take 35mm slides, out of the box. You could tape them to the gobo holder in the other projectors of course. There are services that will write a digital image (up to 4k) onto a 35mm colour slide so you can create your own patterns and have them projected with flash power, and at higher resolution than most (reasonably priced) digital cinema projectors

Here's another short article I wrote on adapting the vast Rosco gobo library to use with a Lightblaster. I've also successfully used bigger sizes with the other projectors - trimming a bit off the sides of the thin metal gobos with a large pair of scissors to fit in the gobo holders.

You could make your own however if you are still using a camera lens to focus the light, it will still have the fundamental problem of the small Bowens mount lights above. One possible way of solving this is to use large, flat Fresnel lenses (which you can by from Rymans for about £5 for an A4 sized one), to focus the image of the gobo. I've had a go hand holding the Fresnel and it works in principle, however the resulting contraption would be quite large. Or, maybe just use a Source 4 projection light as used by theatres and movie productions the world over for decades :) https://stagedepot.co.uk/lighting/profiles/tungsten-fixed/etc-source-four-fixed-beam

A 5th option which I've recently started working with is to use a digital projector:-
View: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGZ7iVPATdi/


Initially, I thought I'd use it as a sort of prototyping projector - and then get the images written to colour transparencies to use in the Lightblaster, but tbh, this Optoma HD400 is pretty bright, and the pixelation is nowhere near as noticeable as I thought it would be, and I've now used it on two shoots with good results. It's a bit cumbersome to mount, hence the light stand with a table on it, a mitre box and some rubber door wedges to adjust the tilt.


In conclusion, I'd get one of the cheap large heavy ones, and a Lightblaster, and then raid the vast library of Rosco Gobos https://stagedepot.co.uk/lighting/gobos
 
I have, in the past used my old slide projector. The existing lamp is not strong enough and too yellow to make photography easy so I had been toying with trying to mate up a flash unit. I wouldn't buy one specially, but if you know someone with one mouldering in a loft, it's worth a try.
 
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The best DIY gobo blaster type devices I've seen is this one that uses 3D printed parts. The guy who designed and built it has supplied the CAD files and detailed instructions for those who want to build their own.

Gobo Projector
 
Hi Mike...

I've got all of those :-/

Thank you so much for taking the time to give such a comprehensive reply mate, seriously appreciate it (y) You've done some brilliant things with them, that write up was immensely helpful. Cheers again.

I have, in the past used my old slide projector. The existing lamp is not strong enough and too yellow to make photography easy so I had been toying with trying to mate up a flash unit. I wouldn't buy one specially, but if you know someone with one mouldering in a loft, it's worth a try.

Awesome, cheers mate (y)

The best DIY gobo blaster type devices I've seen is this one that uses 3D printed parts. The guy who designed and built it has supplied the CAD files and detailed instructions for those who want to build their own.

Gobo Projector

I actually have a 3D printer, so would just need to get some PETG in order to give that one a try - thank you (y)
 
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