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Pardon the long post - and you don't have to read it all lol

This morning we were travelling up the M5 taking our son to view a university when the traffic just stopped. About 30 cars ahead (or around 100 vehicles in all three lanes) was one police car that had stopped the traffic.

After a minute or so it was clear that nothing was going to move for ages so we switched off the engine and waited. A few minutes later we noticed that the opposite carriageway's traffic had stopped coming past. Then a police car came down it at 100mph+. Then another. And soon after they whipped around the junction behind us and came up the hard shoulder.

We must have arrived on the scene within a minute of the original police car stopping the traffic and a good half dozen, maybe 10 more appeared in the later 15-20 minutes. The traffic news told us a car had gone on to the embankment and hit a bridge. A couple of fire engines turned up. Then an air ambulance landed.

Then two more fire engines and a paramedic. Then one or two unmarked police cars.

We were stuck for a good half hour or so and people started to get out of their cars and stretch their legs. Then one or two walked up to the front of the traffic queue, presumably to rubber neck. We were on our phones, searching for updates and news but couldn't see anything and fearing a) for the driver/passengers and b) that our day would have to be cancelled and if we'd be stuck there for many hours. Never been in that situation before and we'd mentally started writing letters on how the situation could be improved.

Then about an hour later, 15 minutes or so after the helicopter had departed, the other carriageway was opened by a rolling road block at around 40mph. About 5 minutes later the traffic was coming past at heavy motorway speeds (60ish).

Then, amazingly, we started to move. I was thinking that the police would want to take more evidence and hold us up for longer but they opened one lane. Traffic approaching the junction behind us was diverted off the motorway and the cars we were with were "released". Interestingly, they stop the traffic about 1/2 mile before the accident, partly for the air ambulance but also to prevent photographs and rubber necking.

Okay, we were delayed but the poor man is still alive, in hospital, and the rest of us had an inconvenience. I felt for those who might have had an elderly relative or child needing the loo but I couldn't believe that the police just wanted us to be on our way again. I always thought they wanted as many cars on the motorway as possible to prevent them clogging up other roads.

Also, life is put into perspective sometimes - that poor chap, quite apart from his injuries - short or long term - will probably be interviewed by the police and might be taken to court for dangerous or careless driving, and his insurance will hit the rocket burners and all sorts.

As a final note - the lasting impression I had apart from the totally wrecked car was a policeman photographing the wheel mark on the kerb about 100 yards before the car came to rest - and our son's degree he'll be studying? Forensic science!

Just wondering if anyone else has been really stuck with a motorway closure. Once you're "trapped" there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. You can't turn round or anything - you're just totally stuck and have no idea how long it might be till you can get going. Or has anyone been stuck for hours and hours?

(Let the thread ramble if you want :))
 
Been stuck in traffic on moterways loads of times... various lenghts of time.. think 4 hrs is the most.... its becoming more common.. to be honest am suprised your making such a meal out of it :)
 
Yep happened several times to me (us). Last time (and the worst) was on the M62 near Brighouse, right in the middle of two junctions (sods law comes in)
the traffic just stopped, mobile tells us multiple pile up, 4 hours we were stationary!
Luckily, there was a spot where you could have a pee just off the hard shoulder that was out of view of the M Way!
 
Virtually every motorway journey I do these days end in delays caused by rubber neckers looking at the consequences of shunts. Conversely, I have been at the other end of impact on many occasions photographing the incident and collecting forensic evidence. I've been witness to some truly horrendous scenes and sometimes this never leaves you. I wish your son well at University, with his course and If the one bit of advice I could give him that will serve him well is the 'ABC of forensic investigation' :
A - Assume nothing,
B - Believe no one,
C- Check everything, then check again !
 
Coming home from Coventry a few years ago, a journey that usually takes less than three hours. I left at 15.30hrs on Thursday, got home at 11.30hrs on Friday. That's a hold up!

Pulling into services and kipping doesn't count :lol: ;)


(Kidding)
 
Regularly use the M1 from junction 35 and it's not just accidents that cause stationary traffic,the slip roads at several junctions queue up to exit causing the traffic to come to a standstill.The morons cutting across at the last minute don't help either.
 
Coming home from Coventry a few years ago, a journey that usually takes less than three hours. I left at 15.30hrs on Thursday, got home at 11.30hrs on Friday. That's a hold up!
Was that in 2007 when we had all the flooding around Worcs/Glos? A 30 minute journey took me over seven hours then and I was lucky to get home.
 
I was stuck on the M1 for 2 hours once when a coach caught fire

I also spent an hour stuck about 3/4 of a mile from a motorway junction about 15 years ago, after about 15 minutes a car shot past on the hard shoulder, then once one had done it they started coming, I sat there shaking my head then we started crawling

on the slip road there was a cop car with a copper walking down the line of cars giving them all tickets, this was before it was points for driving on the hard shoulder just a £60 fine

the cars at the back of the queue jumpers started trying to get back into lane one but there was a collective you can f*** right off as everybody bunched up
 
Was that in 2007 when we had all the flooding around Worcs/Glos? A 30 minute journey took me over seven hours then and I was lucky to get home.
No, it was in 2001/2 I think, when snow closed the M11. I heard they had closed the m11 so I went down the A1 (from A14) but then they closed that, so after several hours I managed to drive over the central reservation and head north, then west, then south again to m25. Just got on M25 and they closed that. Was the closest I ever got to drinking my own p###! Since then I always have bottles of water in the car along with very warm coat, and at the earliest signs of cold weather, in goes a spade and a blanket. It was not fun!
 
Pulling into services and kipping doesn't count :LOL: ;)


(Kidding)
Joking aside, the problem in those situations is you are never told how long you are going to be going no where, if you were you could put your seat back and go to sleep. Instead you sit there in expectation that in the next minute or so the traffic will start moving. Sometimes the organisation in this country is more sh## than normal.
 
coming back from cornwall a few years ago somebody decided they were going to jump off a bridge in bristol which held the m5 traffic up for hours
a glorious sunny day 7 children and camping / holiday luggage stuffed into an 8 seater toyota lucida and me in another car with a couple of children and luggage / camping gear
children being sick because of the heat , wanting the toilet , you could imagine it was a bit of a nightmare the traffic was stood still for hours making a journey that normally takes around 8 hours nearly 13 hours.
i think that's the worst hold up iv'e encountered over the years but it's very rare to travel a 100 miles or more now adays without some sort of hold up

at least we had a good holiday :)
 
Which is ironic as "up north" they have discovered how to grit roads properly and I have never been stuck on motorway in the north due to snow.:)

Agree, but we go off the beaten track hiking all over the north UK so very much needed.
 
No, it was in 2001/2 I think, when snow closed the M11. I heard they had closed the m11 so I went down the A1 (from A14) but then they closed that, so after several hours I managed to drive over the central reservation and head north, then west, then south again to m25. Just got on M25 and they closed that. Was the closest I ever got to drinking my own p###! Since then I always have bottles of water in the car along with very warm coat, and at the earliest signs of cold weather, in goes a spade and a blanket. It was not fun!
Your were stuck in snow and you actually considered drinking your own p***???????????
 
I commute from Weston-super-Mare to Taunton for work and dread Fridays in the summer. My commute door to door is normally 40 minutes max but if there is a accident between wsm and Taunton can take 4 hours what I tend to do now on Fridays in the summer is take the day off or pack my photo gear and go off until the evening then go home
 
I commute from Weston-super-Mare to Taunton for work and dread Fridays in the summer. My commute door to door is normally 40 minutes max but if there is a accident between wsm and Taunton can take 4 hours what I tend to do now on Fridays in the summer is take the day off or pack my photo gear and go off until the evening then go home

I feel your pain, I was doing York to Bristol Monday's and returning Friday traffic was always horrendous on the Weston stretch.
 
No, it was in 2001/2 I think, when snow closed the M11. I heard they had closed the m11 so I went down the A1 (from A14) but then they closed that, so after several hours I managed to drive over the central reservation and head north, then west, then south again to m25. Just got on M25 and they closed that. Was the closest I ever got to drinking my own p###! Since then I always have bottles of water in the car along with very warm coat, and at the earliest signs of cold weather, in goes a spade and a blanket. It was not fun!

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Happened to me on friday about tenth car back, van and Ford Ka interface, 69 year old woman left in critical condition. Motorway shut, 3 fire engines, 3-4 ambulances, police motorbike, police cars, all came past on the hard shoulder, as did several vehicles thinking they could travel down the hard shoulder, go into the services to try to get around the accident. People still trying to push into the services as the helicopter was trying to land.

Plus once that filled up and backed up as they weren't allowed out, a honda accord decided to move the cone at the front of the queue and push in.

People walking around, whilst bikes were filtering past, people walking out the cars, down the hard shoulder to go to the services, whilst emergency vehicles were trying to come down.
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No, it was in 2001/2 I think, when snow closed the M11. I heard they had closed the m11 so I went down the A1 (from A14) but then they closed that, so after several hours I managed to drive over the central reservation and head north, then west, then south again to m25. Just got on M25 and they closed that. Was the closest I ever got to drinking my own p###! Since then I always have bottles of water in the car along with very warm coat, and at the earliest signs of cold weather, in goes a spade and a blanket. It was not fun!

Was it 2010 when it was -20

I was on the M62 heading west , going across the top of the Pennines it was the worst I've ever seen it the snow was freezing as soon as it hit the road and turning into an ice drift on the hard shoulder which was encroaching into lane one which was the only lane open.

I though it was going to be closed but made it over, when we got to the saddleworth turn the Mercedes sprinter towing an empty trailer in front of me put his indicator on, I thought you're having a laugh, you can't seriously be considering going down there but yes he starts his turn , got 1/2 way down the hill and slid sideways about 50m jackknifed , I wouldn't have gone down there in a defender

Then one summer not much further down a truck caught fire , I could see it in the distance, thick black smoke covering 3 lanes , fire 30-40ft high , tyres exploding causing massive fireballs , and STILL they drove through it until the police got there, it was that fierce the fire brigade let it burn out because the exploding tyres made it too dangerous to get near
 
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Got stuck on the M1 a few years ago in a transit van. We were sat next to an artic lorry and asked him if he had heard anything on his CB radio. After a bit of a chat and some info, he made us a cup of tea on his camping gas stove :D
 
A couple of years ago I was caught in a traffic hold up on the M5 just south of Jct11 (Gloucester/Cheltenham). A few minutes later the traffic report announced there had been an accident at the Tewkesbury exit (Jct9) . We were held there for about 2 hours before being escorted the 12 miles, or so, to the accident site at 50mph before being released to carry on our merry way. It looked a horrendous crash with a car wrapped around the posts that hold up the exit signs at Jct 9 and I feel for whoever was in the car, their relatives and friends.

What I find difficult to understand though is that I sat within 100m of Jct11 all that time and the Police could easily have let traffic off the motorway at that point and relieved the queue. The roads network could have comfortably have coped with the extra traffic. A few drivers tried to use the hard shoulder to acces the junction but were held there by the police and I'm prety sure I saw the officers taking down their details, maybe to issue fines?
 
Happens all the time. Police can control the vehicles on the motorway rather than everyone rat running around local roads and causing numerous issues
 
More often or not these days it's the mobile PCSO style civilian DoT 'Traffic Officer' who's main objective would appear to be to hinder progress on the carriageway
 
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