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I was out with the kids the other day and sat in Macdonalds and i remembered somebody said you could check if a cars taxed, so i found the site on my phone and started putting in the Reg plates of some in the Carpark

Weirdly enough a 53 plate Subaru STI was in front of me, and it had Insurance but hadn't been Taxed since 2011 WTF

How do they get away with that ? is it not linked in any way to MOTs/Insurance How would that guy be able to dodge it for 5 years ?
Annoys me being a good paying citizen that some people just dont pay it
 
Ha, neither is my neighbours since January, oh well, what can you do, surely ANPR would easily pick up on it when it's driving around but nvm
 
could just be a website glitch. there are enough ANPR and DVLA camera vehicles (at least around here) to catch them.

you can have MOT and Insurance on a SORN'd vehicle..
 
you can report it by the way. I did....
 
Could be they just bought the car or put it back on the road and the tax hasn't appeared on the website yet

Just checked mine and it says due 1st october 2016, yet I retaxed it yesterday
 
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Website is not very reliable. Family member had their car on direct debit (and paid), the site showed the car as untaxed, even though they had been through many anpr systems and even stopped once on suspicion of a telephonic offence (could prove otherwise so no issues), it never flagged on any other system. When calling the DVLA to confirm tax status they were assured it was taxed and the site changed to be listed as taxed from the start of that month.
 
It does say Beta so maybe there in the clear.
 
Electric cars?
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Do they pay road tax? If so, they are very few in number, let them off for being so environmentally friendly.


Many people are exempt so putting it on fuel would penalise them.
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Let them claim it back, people at the DVLC would need something to do
 
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RichardtheSane said:
Any vehicle on the road, whether it is being used or not, should be taxed for using the road.
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But the tax is with regards to emissions, it doesn't actually pay for the roads.

tijuana taxi said:
Let them claim it back, people at the DVLC would need something to do
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I'd rather not pay it in the first place thank you.
 
I'd rather not pay it in the first place thank you.
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Unfortunately too many people who should pay road tax feel like that hence my suggestion.
 
fabs said:
I understand that but the admin costs involved in having to refund those who are exempt would quite possibly outweigh any extra gained from adding it to fuel.
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I respectfully disagree, we are already paying admin staff so any extra from the dodgers would be profit
 
tijuana taxi said:
I respectfully disagree, we are already paying admin staff so any extra from the dodgers would be profit
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To process all those rebates would take a lot of extra staff, not to mention the initial cost of implementing the system so I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement.
 
To process all those rebates would take a lot of extra staff, not to mention the initial cost of implementing the system so I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement.
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I'm dissing you then big time, tough s*** and nothing back for you, even more profit that way ;)
 
seriousrikk said:
Any vehicle on the road, whether it is being used or not, should be taxed for using the road.
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Yep agree, including cars from abroad that have been here for over 6 months.
 
Plenty the other way round as well.
 
Surely the fuel tax exception would only really affect those who drive non fuel efficient cars over 120g/km so it would encourage people with a ved exception to get a more efficient car when they next update it? It could be a phased switch to allow people time to adjust. Generally it is fairer for people to pay tax in proportion to the amount of actual usage rather than a fixed tax which ignores usage.
 
I wish I had time to sit keying car numbers into a website. There's enough ANPR around here to let someone else worry
 
boliston said:
Surely the fuel tax exception would only really affect those who drive non fuel efficient cars over 120g/km so it would encourage people with a ved exception to get a more efficient car when they next update it? It could be a phased switch to allow people time to adjust. Generally it is fairer for people to pay tax in proportion to the amount of actual usage rather than a fixed tax which ignores usage.
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The 120g/km has nothing to do with fuel efficiency, it refers to the co level in the emissions. My old Mondeo TDCi had a similar g/km emission to my petrol Focus yet the Mondeo did just under twice to the gallon that the Focus does.
 
littleted said:
I was out with the kids the other day and sat in Macdonalds and i remembered somebody said you could check if a cars taxed, so i found the site on my phone and started putting in the Reg plates of some in the Carpark

Weirdly enough a 53 plate Subaru STI was in front of me, and it had Insurance but hadn't been Taxed since 2011 WTF

How do they get away with that ? is it not linked in any way to MOTs/Insurance How would that guy be able to dodge it for 5 years ?
Annoys me being a good paying citizen that some people just dont pay it
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In ireland your called a nosey c***
 
boliston said:
Surely the fuel tax exception would only really affect those who drive non fuel efficient cars over 120g/km so it would encourage people with a ved exception to get a more efficient car when they next update it? It could be a phased switch to allow people time to adjust. Generally it is fairer for people to pay tax in proportion to the amount of actual usage rather than a fixed tax which ignores usage.
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Well said. It's more important to tax people on environmental impact, tax the fuel and we get both the tax dodgers and the heavy polluters. Also, a massive tax increase on diesel, because that stuff is too polluting.

This will hopefully be the incentive for electric cars, cleaning up our city air and noise. Then after electric cars hit critical mass, tax the electric cars by their weight when using quick chargers. This will continue to drive innovation on lighter battery and make people only use quick chargers only when really necessary.
 
wuyanxu said:
This will hopefully be the incentive for electric cars, cleaning up our city air and noise. Then after electric cars hit critical mass, tax the electric cars by their weight when using quick chargers. This will continue to drive innovation on lighter battery and make people only use quick chargers only when really necessary.
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Do you really think car manufacturers and battery manufacturers won't be continuing to do that anyway?
 
I have to say why oh why are we taxing cars and not fuel after all these years.
Then we tax for how far you go and which fuel you use.

I don't have a problem with range rover guy if he only does 100 miles a week.

But dirty diesel derek doing 50k a year in his child strangler he needs taxing off the planet.
 
Would be great for townies that don't do many miles Paul, with good transport links but what about us grunts in the sticks?
I can quite easily end up doing 150 mile per day just running around doing family things, fuel is taxed enough anyway.
Got checked for emissions the other week by the council just after a service, was just over but they didn't do anything, said it was those really over they were after.
How can you win with derv engines if it's still dirty after a service? The cars only 2 years old.
 
tom24 said:
Would be great for townies that don't do many miles Paul, with good transport links but what about us grunts in the sticks?
I can quite easily end up doing 150 mile per day just running around doing family things, fuel is taxed enough anyway.
Got checked for emissions the other week by the council just after a service, was just over but they didn't do anything, said it was those really over they were after.
How can you win with derv engines if it's still dirty after a service? The cars only 2 years old.
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I know mate but it is a dirty toxic fuel for the environment and it needs dealing with, sorry.
 
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