Capture One - Edit All as layers in Photoshop?

[mrk123]

Recenlty moved to capture one, can't seem to find the "EDIT ALL AS LAYERS IN PHOTOSHOP" ?
Is there such a command? As there is in Lightroom?
Surely?
When I have say 5 layers highlighted there is only 'edit in photoshop' which creates 5 separate canvases. I want all as layers in Photoshop

 

[myotis]

Recenlty moved to capture one, can't seem to find the "EDIT ALL AS LAYERS IN PHOTOSHOP" ?
Is there such a command? As there is in Lightroom?
Surely?
When I have say 5 layers highlighted there is only 'edit in photoshop' which creates 5 separate canvases. I want all as layers in Photoshop

I wasn't aware of Lightroom having layers? It has masks that are similar to layers, but when I have used LR, they haven't opened as layers in PS

And I've never seen C1 layers being sent to Photoshop as separate canvases. So I'm not sure exactly what is happening. Apologies if this is a stupid suggestion, but you don't mean five "variants" are selected, as they would indeed open as five different documents in PS.

How C1 works is that has two options: "Edit With" and "Open With". there is no "edit in" option

When using "Edit With" C1 creates a PSD or TIFF (your choice) alongside your Raw file, and opens the newly created PSD/TIFF file in PS. All the CI edits are embedded into that single PSD/TIFF file and are seen as a base layer in PS.

However, any Annotations made in C1, or if you have used an Overlay in C1 will be included as separate layers in PS.


When you save the PSD/TIFF in PS, as the the PSD/TIFF is already "inside" C1 any edts will become visible in C1. You can't see, or edit any PS layers in C1, but there are still there, should you want to reopen the file in PS for further editing.

If you want to return to PS for further editing, you need to use the "Open With" option, which will reopen the PSD file in the same state as PS saved it in. Any C1 edits you have made in between will remain "overlaid" on top of the PSD in C1, but won't be seen by PS. But if you have C1 and PS in adjacent windows you can watch how changes in PS are affecting the combined PS+C1 edits in C1 (you need to be using a session for this, and it only happens when you save the PSD in PS. I don't think using a C1 Catalogue allows fo this instant feedback)

"Open With" is also used if you want to open a raw file in a external program. So if you choose "Open With" photoshop when editing.a raw file, C1 will launch PS, and open the raw file in ACR.

So "Open With" is a way of opening any file without including active C1 edits.


EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I think you mean variants and not layers. So the best way to work around this would be in Photoshop to use the

File>Scripts>load files into stack

This allows you to select the files sent from C1 and move them into layers within a single PS document. You just need to be careful how you the save that document. It also means uoi will have created multiple PSDs/Tiffs in C1 that you don't need. But unless someone knows better, I think that is the best option.

There is a C1 script in the script menu for stitching in photoshop, I'm not sure if that might take you part of the way, and then back out before PS does the stitching

 

[mrk123]

When editing interior images such as brackets, you generally select your brackets and edit as layers in photoshop, then when you save in PS a new TIFF files updates in LR..
Not possible in C1? Having to manually copy and [aste each 'variant' in PS is time consuming.

 

[myotis]

When editing interior images such as brackets, you generally select your brackets and edit as layers in photoshop, then when you save in PS a new TIFF files updates in LR..
Not possible in C1? Having to manually copy and [aste each 'variant' in PS is time consuming.

So you didn't mean layers

I've actually just edited my post, as you were posting this one, with a suggestion to speed up things in PS.

But in terms of working with bracketed exposures, have you tried the C1 offering for this."Merge to HDR" in the image menu. I think they recommend working with three bracketed images.

 

[Hadron]

If I’m understanding you correctly I think what you’re trying to achieve can be done as follows. Select your images then open scripts on the top bar and stitch with Photoshop. The images then open as layers in a group in Photoshop.

 

[myotis]

If I’m understanding you correctly I think what you’re trying to achieve can be done as follows. Select your images then open scripts on the top bar and stitch with Photoshop. The images then open as layers in a group in Photoshop.

I suggested that, but wasn't sure if it took to you all the way to a stitched image, or if it allowed you to stop at a stage with all the images in layers.

It's a pity the script isn't better labelled, as this is a useful function that goes beyond just stitching.

 

[mrk123]

Yeah 'stitch' is something I havr not heard of, i gogoled every conceivable variation in words too!

 

[myotis]

Yeah 'stitch' is something I havr not heard of, i gogoled every conceivable variation in words too!

Have you tried C1s "Merge to HDR" It's not going to give the same control as blending layers in PS, but it's starting with RAWs, and you end up with a DNG, so you should get something that is very flexible in terms of editing.

 

[Hadron]

I suggested that, but wasn't sure if it took to you all the way to a stitched image, or if it allowed you to stop at a stage with all the images in layers.

It's a pity the script isn't better labelled, as this is a useful function that goes beyond just stitching.

I’ve just tried it again and it stops with layers in a group.

 

[myotis]

I’ve just tried it again and it stops with layers in a group.

Thanks, that's useful to know.

 

[mrk123]

Have you tried C1s "Merge to HDR" It's not going to give the same control as blending layers in PS, but it's starting with RAWs, and you end up with a DNG, so you should get something that is very flexible in terms of editing.

Never trusted or liekd HDR.

 

[myotis]

Never trusted or liekd HDR.

Is this from trying it out, or just based on the horrible HDR stuff that used to be produced? Because from the reviews, C1s exposure blending bears no resemblance to the results that those old HDR programs produced.

 

[mrk123]

Is this from trying it out, or just based on the horrible HDR stuff that used to be produced? Because from the reviews, C1s exposure blending bears no resemblance to the results that those old HDR programs produced.

I will be honest I have not tried it in C1. Just never had good results in PS or 3rd party. Might try it out. But I don't believe you can get better results than doing it manually.

 

[myotis]

I will be honest I have not tried it in C1. Just never had good results in PS or 3rd party. Might try it out. But I don't believe you can get better results than doing it manually.

This is probably the case, but I would struggle to not at least try it out. If you do give it a try, I would be interested to hear how you get on.

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

This is probably the case, but I would struggle to not at least try it out. If you do give it a try, I would be interested to hear how you get on.

Graham, this looks a good deal,what do you think?

Capture One Pro Camera Bundle - 12 Month Subscription | Wex Photo Video

www.wexphotovideo.com

But what’s this one is it different?

Capture One Pro - 12 Month Subscription | Wex Photo Video

www.wexphotovideo.com

Do you have to buy a camera with the camera bundle, they don’t make it clear

 

[myotis]

Graham, this looks a good deal,what do you think?

Capture One Pro Camera Bundle - 12 Month Subscription | Wex Photo Video

www.wexphotovideo.com

But what’s this one is it different?

Capture One Pro - 12 Month Subscription | Wex Photo Video

www.wexphotovideo.com

Do you have to buy a camera with the camera bundle, they don’t make it clear

The second one is the standard annual subscription for C1 available directly from C1. But not that unlike LR which still gives some functionality if you cancel the subscription. C1 completely dies if you cancel it.

They do however offer discounts on switching to a perpetual license, which is on a sliding scale, which means if you cancel after five years, the perpetual license is "free". But is only updated for 12 months.

The first one seems, as you suggest, only available bundled with a camera. This is something C1 don't offer directly, so it looks as if it's just badly explained by Wex. Maybe you normally get to this page via a link on a camera page. I seem to remember WEX would often link to "deals if you buy this camera"

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

The second one is the standard annual subscription for C1 available directly from C1. But not that unlike LR which still gives some functionality if you cancel the subscription. C1 completely dies if you cancel it.

They do however offer discounts on switching to a perpetual license, which is on a sliding scale, which means if you cancel after five years, the perpetual license is "free". But is only updated for 12 months.

The first one seems, as you suggest, only available bundled with a camera. This is something C1 don't offer directly, so it looks as if it's just badly explained by Wex. Maybe you normally get to this page via a link on a camera page. I seem to remember WEX would often link to "deals if you buy this camera"

Waiting to see if C1 offer BF deals, still using Fuji free raw converter at mo and it does most of what I need but I could be tempted. Thanks

 

[myotis]

Waiting to see if C1 offer BF deals, still using Fuji free raw converter at mo and it does most of what I need but I could be tempted. Thanks

They used to never offer Black Friday deals when they were majority owned by a British venture capital company, but started when that share was bought by a Danish venture capital company There were lots of changes when that happened ! I don't know the proportions but a large chunk has always remained employee owned.

But this will be the first BF after them properly settling into their new licensing system so it will be interesting to see what happens. They have apparently already been offering 40% off the first years subscription to existing perpetual license holders.

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Graham if you see any deals please give me a nod. Thanks

 

[myotis]

Graham if you see any deals please give me a nod. Thanks

Will do

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Will do

Reduced 12 month prices in C1

Buy Capture One: Professional Photo Editing Software

Discover Capture One’s complete suite of photo editing software, trusted by professionals worldwide. From Capture One Pro to our mobile app, Live, All in One bundle, and Studio solutions, explore pricing options that suit your creative workflow. Enhance your photography across desktop, mobile...

www.captureone.com

 

[myotis]

Reduced 12 month prices in C1

Buy Capture One: Professional Photo Editing Software

Discover Capture One’s complete suite of photo editing software, trusted by professionals worldwide. From Capture One Pro to our mobile app, Live, All in One bundle, and Studio solutions, explore pricing options that suit your creative workflow. Enhance your photography across desktop, mobile...

www.captureone.com

I hadn't seen this, but If you want a subscription, and you are happy to end up on the full rate after 12 months, it’s a reasonable saving to give C1 a proper try. There is a lot to learn about using C1.

Note, that as an existing subscriber, I'm not being offered a black Friday price. This is unlike Adobe who allow you to extend your existing subscription period by buying subs (as many as you like) at Black Friday prices.

My only offer from C1, which I got today, is to upgrade my existing sub to one that offers extra features. With 40% off the first year,and full price thereafter.

C1 is an expensive choice :-(

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

I hadn't seen this, but If you want a subscription, and you are happy to end up on the full rate after 12 months, it’s a reasonable saving to give C1 a proper try. There is a lot to learn about using C1.

Note, that as an existing subscriber, I'm not being offered a black Friday price. This is unlike Adobe who allow you to extend your existing subscription period by buying subs (as many as you like) at Black Friday prices.

My only offer from C1, which I got today, is to upgrade my existing sub to one that offers extra features. With 40% off the first year,and full price thereafter.

C1 is an expensive choice :-(

Graham it’s tempting but more than I require,the free Fuji raw converter having the film sims is really great for my needs, thanks again for your clarifications and thoughts.

 

[Edwardsson]

I hadn't seen this, but If you want a subscription, and you are happy to end up on the full rate after 12 months, it’s a reasonable saving to give C1 a proper try. There is a lot to learn about using C1.

Note, that as an existing subscriber, I'm not being offered a black Friday price. This is unlike Adobe who allow you to extend your existing subscription period by buying subs (as many as you like) at Black Friday prices.

My only offer from C1, which I got today, is to upgrade my existing sub to one that offers extra features. With 40% off the first year,and full price thereafter.

C1 is an expensive choice :-(

Got a similar offer, and what not that kind of offer I wanted. I do not need the Capture One Pro Studio Extra Everything, only need the regular Capture One Pro.

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

So as a current subscriber don’t you get to buy pro at that sub price?

 

[myotis]

So as a current subscriber don’t you get to buy pro at that sub price?

Nope, you are only eligible for the deals displayed in your account, which don't match those on offer to attract new users. So it's the full £179.

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

So when you go on the C1 website you see the offers?but when you go into your account you then don’t see it?

 

[myotis]

So when you go on the C1 website you see the offers?but when you go into your account you then don’t see it?

That is correct. The only offer available in my account is to upgrade to the more expensive "all in one" or "studio" versions.

 

[Edwardsson]

They should change their company name to »Capture Your Money»

Apart from their completely odd behaviour towards their loyal customers and users, I find their software IMHO one of the best for my purpose, i.e. it suits my way of editing photos. But it is way too expensive.

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

They should change their company name to »Capture Your Money»

Apart from their completely odd behaviour towards their loyal customers and users, I find their software IMHO one of the best for my purpose, i.e. it suits my way of editing photos. But it is way too expensive.

I see you shoot Fuji, same here.
I guess unlike me you like to do more intense work on your RAF’s otherwise I use the free Fuji Raw converter which I

 

[myotis]

They should change their company name to »Capture Your Money»

Apart from their completely odd behaviour towards their loyal customers and users, I find their software IMHO one of the best for my purpose, i.e. it suits my way of editing photos. But it is way too expensive.

This is where I am as well, but while it's too expensive for "me" I'm not sure that it's "too" expensive for what it is.

C1 used to be clearly aimed at professional photographers, but lost it's way for a spell trying to appeal to everyone and compete with Lightroom,


It has always been much more expensive than Lightroom and they are now obviously returning to really only being interested in selling to professional photographers (and retouchers). The all in one subscription with its priority support will hopefully, for those that can afford it, will be step back the old days, when C1 support would respond in less than an hour.

As photographers we are in a fortunate position in having really cheap software available, because of mass market sales I assume The three statistical/risk modelling programs that I used professionally used to cost me between £600 and £1000 each, a year on "maintenance fees". As well as one of them costing over £2000 (as I remember it) for the initial purchase.

If I was a professional photographer I would happily pay for C1, But, as it is, I waste a lot of time trying to convince myself that I should use LR (which I have a for free with Photoshop) or DX0 Photolab (which I have for noise reduction), and dump C1, but I just can't do it.

I've paid for LR courses and I have made hundreds of comparisons, but I still can't get on with either LR or DXO, even if LR leaves C1 trailing in the dust in terms of DAM capability, as does DXO in terms of noise and lens corrections.

 

[Edwardsson]

I see you shoot Fuji, same here.
I guess unlike me you like to do more intense work on your RAF’s otherwise I use the free Fuji Raw converter which I

At the moment, until I have decided whether to update my C1 or not, I am using the Fuji Raw converter as well (a stripped down C1 Pro). But I am missing some of the tools from the Pro version. I decide tomorrow if I will go for the Pro version again. It depends on if I can find a good BF price for an upgrade or not.

 

[Edwardsson]

This is where I am as well, but while it's too expensive for "me" I'm not sure that it's "too" expensive for what it is.

C1 used to be clearly aimed at professional photographers, but lost it's way for a spell trying to appeal to everyone and compete with Lightroom,


It has always been much more expensive than Lightroom and they are now obviously returning to really only being interested in selling to professional photographers (and retouchers). The all in one subscription with its priority support will hopefully, for those that can afford it, will be step back the old days, when C1 support would respond in less than an hour.

As photographers we are in a fortunate position in having really cheap software available, because of mass market sales I assume The three statistical/risk modelling programs that I used professionally used to cost me between £600 and £1000 each, a year on "maintenance fees". As well as one of them costing over £2000 (as I remember it) for the initial purchase.

If I was a professional photographer I would happily pay for C1, But, as it is, I waste a lot of time trying to convince myself that I should use LR (which I have a for free with Photoshop) or DX0 Photolab (which I have for noise reduction), and dump C1, but I just can't do it.

I've paid for LR courses and I have made hundreds of comparisons, but I still can't get on with either LR or DXO, even if LR leaves C1 trailing in the dust in terms of DAM capability, as does DXO in terms of noise and lens corrections.

Even if C1 is too expensive for me at the regular price tag, I hope I’ll be able to find a good BF deal so that I can continue to use the Pro version without breaking the bank.

I have tested both DxO Photolab and ON1 Raw, but I never really liked them. Regarding the LR, I haven’t been testing it since ages, even I downloaded a trial version some months ago, but never launched it.

 

[droj]

At the moment, until I have decided whether to update my C1 or not, I am using the Fuji Raw converter as well (a stripped down C1 Pro). But I am missing some of the tools from the Pro version. I decide tomorrow if I will go for the Pro version again. It depends on if I can find a good BF price for an upgrade or not.

Sounds sensible. There are various factors and one is when / how often one acquires new (digital) cameras. In my case that's rarely, & when I do they are used & several years old. Neither do I feel much need for automated lens corrections - thus having the latest software is far from crucial. In other words, I can run a non-subscription app for some years without upgrading, and balance my needs with my budget.

C1 is my favourite processor - the one I find most lucid - & I'm currently on C1 23. I bought it when it was on offer - I can't remember for how much exactly but certainly less than £200. The AI masking brush is pretty cool, though one could live without it as one did before.

If at some date they phase out the 'perpetual' versions, or cause them to stop operating, I'll be scuppered and have to look elsewhere because there's no way I can afford a C1 sub. Until that time ...

Photolab is overall quite powerful but for me the tone controls don't cut the mustard, so it remains an eccentric outlier.

One can always hit the mainstream, of course ... it's personal.

 

[Edwardsson]

I have a perpetual license for C1 22, and had a subscription as a teacher until August this year. Probably will get a new. subscription through Adorama. You'll get a license for $129.

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Capture One Pro | Wex Photo Video

www.wexphotovideo.com

Wex are unclear on this,it seems to be a PL,et talks about ‘23 updates,the should e clearer wat they are selling?

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Capture One Pro Camera Bundle - 12 Month Subscription | Wex Photo Video

www.wexphotovideo.com

Sub good price assuming if you bu a cam

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Capture One Pro - 12 Month Subscription | Wex Photo Video

www.wexphotovideo.com

Cam free

 

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

I have a perpetual license for C! 22, and had a subscription as a teacher until August this year. Probably will get a new. subscription through Adorama. You'll get a license for $129.

Yes they are good prices

 

[droj]

Features that I don't need are its tethering & collaboration tools. What I value is the nature of its processing functions - colour, tone & masking.