Canon vs Nikon Liveview.

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Hi guys just a quick question.

I have a Canon 600d and together with my Sigma 10-20 I take a lot of costal shots usually looking into either sunrise/set so quite a vast dynamic range.

My usual technique is to take two exposures. One for sky and one for foreground.

I do this in Liveview by moving the little square up to the sky, take an exposure reading, dial it in and take the shot and move down to the foreground and do the same. Obviously the foreground is darker and needs a longer shutter speed which is great as it blurs the sea a little. Then I layer the two images on elements and erase the blown bits leaving the correctly exposed parts below giving me a nice natural correct exposure throughout the image. You could use ND grads to the same effect but this just is how I do it.

Anyway lets get to the question.

A guy from work with a Nikon 3100 asked me if I could take him out and help him improve his shots, so we went out and I showed him how to set up for the two exposures but his Nikon did not change on Liveview when we dialed the shutter speed up and down!

His Liveview does not seem to be subjective!?

Is this the case with all Nikons or is there a setting we can change this as what is the point in having liveview if it doen't change with the settings.

Any help would be much appreciated as I know nothing about Nikon cameras myself and can't dig up anything on the web about this.

Also the 3100 was on full manual mode.

Thanks Darren.
 
There is a setting or at least should be, under my Nikon D7000 it's in the ''SHOOTING MENU'' then scroll down to ''Movie settings'' then to ''Manual movie settings'' set this to ''off'' and you should get full control.

I have a feeling on the D3100 you should be able to get to it by pressing the ''Info'' button twice.
 
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Hi again. I passed this message on and he says that there is no shooting menu and pressing the info button twice did nothing.

Any d3100 owners able to shed any light on this would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers Darren
 
I don't think you can do that with Nikon cameras apart from the D800/e and the D4. The only way around it is to turn liveview off, change the settings and then switch back to liveview, keep repeating that until you are happy with the result
 
Oooff really! That seems like major drawback with their system then! Can't belive that!

Thanks for your help.
 
DJLeslie said:
Oooff really! That seems like major drawback with their system then! Can't belive that!

Thanks for your help.
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I'm not familiar w/ the 3100 in particular, but on many Nikons you cannot be in Manual mode for this to work. It *should* work in P/S/A; but I recall a glitch in one model that required turning LV on/off to see the changes. Not sure which model(s) that is though.
 
It is a hardware issue when it comes to a Nikon system. The aperture is set when you turn liveview on and it will not change or show you a preview. The required part for a real time aperture control isn't in the Nikon consumer cameras
 
My mate has a Canon 5DMk II and the liveview is very bright in low light giving you a similar view to what's seen through the viewfinder

My D3100 and my D7000 have crap liveview in low light and its basically pitch black, I too would love to know if there's a way to get better low light visibility through them?
 
Big Nick said:
My mate has a Canon 5DMk II and the liveview is very bright in low light giving you a similar view to what's seen through the viewfinder

My D3100 and my D7000 have crap liveview in low light and its basically pitch black, I too would love to know if there's a way to get better low light visibility through them?
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Surely its dependant on the brightness and you cant amplify light which isnt there if the settings dont alter when you change them. Unless you come out of lv and turn it on again
 
Big Nick said:
My mate has a Canon 5DMk II and the liveview is very bright in low light giving you a similar view to what's seen through the viewfinder

My D3100 and my D7000 have crap liveview in low light and its basically pitch black, I too would love to know if there's a way to get better low light visibility through them?
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That's weird, my D7000 is fine, I noticed it was locked in ''M'' mode but once the setting above was changed it now alters and give me bright view and changes on it's own according to the light.

I think people are getting confused here, this is not for video mode, the OP's friend is taking pictures.
 
Sorted it now after having a play after watching the above video

The D7000 when in liveview only gives you the brightness at whatever the aperture setting was when you switched the liveview on.

As I mainly shoot at narrow apertures that was why I was only seeing blackness when I switched to liveview and no amount of twiddling the setting made any difference!!

If you change the aperture setting whilst the liveview is still on it makes no difference to the brightness of the picture you see on it.

You need to switch liveview off, then change the aperture, then switch liveview back on to see the brighter picture

Hope that makes sense !!
 
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