Canon MP610 & iMac

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I have an iMac and am using LR 2 and want to do a few prints, I have printed one using iPhoto and the colours are relatively accurate to my eye but printing using LR the colours are all wrong, there is like a grey ish orange ish colour cast to it. Any ideas why?
The colour management is set to - "Printer"

Not sure what else to do really. Don't want to do anything too complicated, just want to be able to print.
 
My photos are in LR though and it means duplicating them to get them onto iPhoto.
 
Anyone able to help I need to print some photos off for my course on Wednesday and I don't want to waste money on ink by keep printing them with a nasty cast.
And without having the need to export and import to iPhoto.


Thanks
 
You don't need to export them and re import them with iPhoto. Just let iPhoto know where the images are and it will do bring them into it's own interface. This may be a short term answer to your problem.

Now back to your original problem. What printer are you using, and are you using that manufacturers ink and paper ?. If so I suspect the problem is down to the calibration of the monitor. Ideally you need to use a suitable calibration device, however modern Mac's do come with a a visual set up program. Not the best but this may help.

After you've made your prints in iPhoto , go to System preferences and select displays. From the two tab options chose Color. You'll see three tabs on the right. Select calibration, and follow the screen instructions. BEFORE you do anything make a note of the calibration name you are currently using, This enables you to go back to this isit all goes wrong. I'd also tick "Show profiles for this display" as it limits the list that shows.
 
I have a new 27" iMac with a canon mp610 using original inks. If it prints fine from iPhoto surely it means that Lightroom is the issue?
As its printing what is on the screen with iPhoto just not doing it with Lightroom.

How do I point iPhoto to the Lightroom catalogue?
 
Anyone able to offer more advice?
 
mattchewone said:
I have a new 27" iMac with a canon mp610 using original inks. If it prints fine from iPhoto surely it means that Lightroom is the issue?
As its printing what is on the screen with iPhoto just not doing it with Lightroom.

How do I point iPhoto to the Lightroom catalogue?
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in iPhoto go File, and select Import to library. Then select the folder where your pictures are and Iphoto will bring these in to the "Last Event" folder.You can move these into a new album from which you can print.

Yes it does sound like a Lightroom problem. I suspect the system profile that is being used is causing the problem. It may be down to the monitor not being calibrated and profiled , which Lightroom expects. I've never printed out of iPhoto on a profiled system, so can't comment. I can say though that Lightroom does print very well out of such a system.

Anyway I hope this gets your pictures into iPhoto OK and you can get them printed as you want
 
Matt

Just did a quick test using my HP 3070 printer. Image printed out of iPhoto, and one printed from Lightroom. Both with no corrections and from Lightroom as "Printer Manages Colour" Both images identical for density contrast and colour. No adjustments made to the image in either app. Print made on Kodak double sided paper I have had for some time that I now use fo test printing, but the images are perfectly OK for colour and contrast.. The important part is that they match.

Imac is profiled to 6500K, and using L* contrast, but this is similar to 2.2.
 
I have done no calibration and changed no profiles or anything. So I am really confused how one photo that looks normal in iPhoto prints fine and another photo which looks great in LR but prints with a colour cast.
 
mattchewone said:
I have done no calibration and changed no profiles or anything. So I am really confused how one photo that looks normal in iPhoto prints fine and another photo which looks great in LR but prints with a colour cast.
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Because they are managing the colour differently.
 
How can I get them to colour manage the same?
 
Ive just been in to colour management in OS Mac, and i changed it to the same colour space LR is using which is Prophoto RGB and it showed the same colour cast on the screen as what it printed, how can I change LR colour space to that of the iMac?
 
How can I change Lightroom to srgb as I can only find the colour space it exports not how it works or prints.

Thanks
 
You can't change the colour space options, when using the "Printer Manages Color" option. As far as I can determine it defaults this setting to sRGB
 
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The how are two photos being printed different? Both look great on screen one printed using iPhoto prints fine, one printed using LR and it's got a nasty colour cast.
Bit odd to be can understand what's causing the difference. I only want to print what I'm seeing didn't think it would be this hard.
 
Chappers said:
You can't change the colour space options, when using the "Printer Manages Color" option. As far as I can determine it defaults this setting to sRGB
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I thought he ment how LR shows the images - youd not set the profile to print sRGB lol
 
Aren't both applications leaving the printing colour space to the printer? Which would mean both should print the same?
How can I ensure that when I export the image it's being exported on the correct colour space for iPhoto such as sRGB?
 
Both Lightroom and iPhoto applications should deliver the file to the printer with the appropriate standard colour space. It shouldn't matter what colour space the application uses as the printer software should accept this and convert it to the printers colour space on the fly.

You could try printing the same image from both applications, but when you get to the printer dialogue opt for preview rather than print. . This will show how the image is being presented to the printer. In my case both images look identical.
 
Just printed the same image from both applications and the one from iPhoto shows much more darks, the one from LR is a lot brighter and more washed out. Not sure how this is if its the printer that is managing the colours as its the same image!
 
Can't understand it either as on my system everything prints identicam, either from Lightroom or iPhoto.

However the next version of Lightroom ( V4) will have an adjustment slider in the print module that allows for +/- adjustment for print brightness, and a slider for adding contrast. You might find this helps.

You can dpwnload a Beta trial version from here.

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom4/

Remember this is a public Beta designed for evaluation only so don't commit anything important to it. The catalogs are not compatible with versions earlier, as they will contain additional fields
 
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