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I've just got my hands on a 5D for the first time.

The results look horribly drab on the LCD and the files seem to need a lot of tweaking to get the density of colour I'm used to on my 40D.

Is this to be expected or am I expecting too much from 3 year old technology?
 
The LCD will look loads different - thats one of the main things that have changed over the last few years in DSLR's - bigger, brighter, more vivid displays.

The 5D is about the same as my 30D in terms of display, what you need to do is to look at the exposure graph to judge your results, the image is only useful for checking composition.

You say the pics need a lot of tweaking... are you shooting in raw or jpeg? If its jpg, which picture control are you using? Again, these were changed a fair bit in the 40D.

Don't worry, you'll work out your workflow soon and the 5D is still pretty damned good even though the 5D MkII has now come out...
 
Has the previous owner tweaked them to suit his / hers own style if so do a return to default setting tweak:thumbs: MMy 5d colours look vibrant and well saturated on the rear screen, and I have a 1d mk111 and 10 / 20d to compare them to:shrug:


jerry12953 said:
I've just got my hands on a 5D for the first time.

The results look horribly drab on the LCD and the files seem to need a lot of tweaking to get the density of colour I'm used to on my 40D.

Is this to be expected or am I expecting too much from 3 year old technology?
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desantnik said:
You say the pics need a lot of tweaking... are you shooting in raw or jpeg? If its jpg, which picture control are you using? Again, these were changed a fair bit in the 40D.
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I'm shooting RAW; I can get good saturation etc, using Lightroom, but with the 40D they often looked good straight off the card.:thinking:
 
If you are shooting in raw then you just need to slightly change your default processing values. It will be different to the 40D...
 
Agger said:
Has the previous owner tweaked them to suit his / hers own style if so do a return to default setting tweak:thumbs: MMy 5d colours look vibrant and well saturated on the rear screen, and I have a 1d mk111 and 10 / 20d to compare them to:shrug:
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Vibrant and well saturated ! Wow! At first I assumed it was the LCD but the files looked drab as well...

I've since set the picture style to "Landscape", but does this affect RAW files, or just jpegs, I wonder?

Time for a quick test.
 
It might be worth checking what colour space the camera is set to. If it's Adobe RGB, try changing it to sRGB.

From the manual (p67)
About Adobe RGB
This is mainly used for commercial printing and other industrial uses.
This setting is not recommended if you do not know about image processing, Adobe RGB, and Design rule for Camera File System 2.0 Exif 2.21)
Since the image will look very subdued with sRGB personal computers and printers not compatible with Design rule for Camera File System 2.0 (Exif 2.21), post-processing of the image with software will be required.

If you do a full reset of all settings (P37 of manual), this will reset the colour space as well as other settings.
 
Picture styles don't affect raw. These are tweaked in a program of your choice. Picture styles are customisable. If you want more saturation, contrast etc, then adjust a style to your taste from the default setting.
 
If you have version 2.1 of Lightroom you can download from the Adobe site a series of camera profiles. These will read the picture style setting and apply Adobes version of the styles. This may help.

The Alternative is to produce a set of adjustments that you find acceptable, save these as a preset, and apply them at the import stage. Theses will then be automatically applied to you images
 
Chappers said:
If you have version 2.1 of Lightroom you can download from the Adobe site a series of camera profiles. These will read the picture style setting and apply Adobes version of the styles.
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I do have v2.1; your suggestion would work with RAW files then, would it, Chappers?

I shoudn't be complaining about a Canon 5D though, should I?
 
Depending on your programme and printer, you may want to use Adobe RGB, not sRGB, with CS3 managing colours in a printer, best to check.

George
 
The first thing I noticed about the 40D was the increased colour saturation, which I put down to the (then) new Digic 3 processor. I wasn't always a fan of the colour initially, but I suppose I've got used to it now.
 
jerry12953 said:
I do have v2.1; your suggestion would work with RAW files then, would it, Chappers?

I shoudn't be complaining about a Canon 5D though, should I?
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Jerry

Yes it works with most RAW formats ( no problem with the 5D)
the link is here
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles

The picture styles are automatically read and applied to the image

There is an Editor program for these profiles but it only works with DNG files, but to honest the ones that Adobe have produced work just fine.
 
jerry12953 said:
Thanks, Chappers, I've done that.

I think I understand what I've done ... I can click on for example the Camera Landscape profile, and it kinda looks like a Velvia image automatically:thinking:
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Yeh... these confused me at first... and I set them to standard... I was shooting jpegs... After reading a book i've moved onto shooting raw's and selecting the pic type after for def in canons photo software... but def good to pick what you think is best at the time... the landscape and faithfull ones are best I find.

Mark
 
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