Best camera settings for sharpness?

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So i was just wondering about the must dos in regards to image sharpness.For some reason i have always had an issue with soft photos no matter i try it seems.
I have a shoot for tomorrow and for once i just wanna get some great detail.
I know abolishing camera shake is number one but it will be a fashion type shoot tomorrow and i find using a tripod such a restriction for these kind of shoots.You know its either portrait or landscape or it takes ten minutes to set the angle up right for each shot!
I heard that on most lenses around f8 is a sharp sweet spot.Does this apply to both prime and zoom?
What else camera setting wise apart from fast shutter speed obviously should i definately be doing?
Does flash help with sharpness much?( sorry about noob question)

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Why not tell us a bit more, like what camera/lens combo you are using and perhaps show us some samples of what you think is a soft shot. Also, do you shoot in raw or jpg? Flash is unlikely to help with sharpness issues, its more likely to be something much more basic than that, such as not having the focus point on the bit you actually want in focus.
 
Why not tell us a bit more, like what camera/lens combo you are using and perhaps show us some samples of what you think is a soft shot. Also, do you shoot in raw or jpg? Flash is unlikely to help with sharpness issues, its more likely to be something much more basic than that, such as not having the focus point on the bit you actually want in focus.

Hey yeah sorry should have added a bit more info.Im using a nikon d90 with 18-105 kit lens and 1.8 50 mm prime. I shoot in raw and know sharpening needs to be done after but still have issues.

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Actually, flash can help enormously if you underexpose for ambient and rely exclusively on the flash for your lighting. That would be quite typical for some types of studio shooting, or other creative shooting scenarios. You can shoot at 1/125 and still not see shake/blur, if you exclude ambient light.

This is a 2 second exposure, with flash. Is it sharp enough?

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Without flash (or possibly with)....

- you need a shutter speed (or flash duration) fast enough to eliminate camera shake;
- you need a shutter speed (or flash duration) fast enough to eliminate subject blur;
- if you have IS then be sure to give it time to spin up and stabilise before releasing the shutter;
- you need accurate focusing and/or sufficient DOF to conceal small focus errors;
- depending on your DOF you may or may not be able to use focus/recompose;
- with a soft lens, especially a zoom, you may want to stop down to improve lens IQ;
- but you don't want to stop down so far that diffraction causes more harm than good;
- contrasty light, from the side, will create more detail in texture and improve the impression of sharpness;
- soft lighting from the front will reduce/eliminate visible shadows and will conceal detail, making things look softer;
- the more you fill the frame the more detail you will capture and the less enlargement you will need to apply. The shot will look sharper and more detailed;
- the smaller your subect in the frame, and the more you need to crop, the less detail you will capture, and additional enlargement will increase the visibility of flaws in the capture;
- the higher your ISO the more noise you will have, perhaps requiring more NR, and consequently softening the image;
- the smaller your enlargement the less critical your sharpness needs to be. the larger your enlargement the more precise everything must be.

Those are probably the main points. So all you really need is the right lighting, the right focusing, the right shutter speed, the right ISO, the right aperture, a model that doesn't move too quickly, and a steady hand. What is "right" depends on the subject and scene you are dealing with, and how it is lit. Balance those things correctly and you should get sharp results.

Once the capture part is over with it then comes down to skillfull processing to make the most of the image captured. That is an art in itself.

p.s. if you think a tripod may be too cumbersome, how about a monopod?

EDIT : Just seen your post with the example. For a shot like that I would say that f/8 would be a good starting point, and as there is no subject movement to speak of you only need a shutter speed sufficient to combat camera shake. I don't know what your max sync speed is but I would suggest trying a shutter speed of around 1/200 or 1/250 and 200 ISO. The problem then is whether you have enough light for the scene. If you are relying on natural light and it's anything like the grey old day here today you will run into problems. Bounced or off camera flash might well be your best solution. If not, you'll just have to compromise on one or more of the exposure controls until your exposure is good. If you shoot with the 50mm then unless you really need bags of DOF you may be better off opening up to something like f/2.8 and then seeing where you stand. A tripod or monopod could let you relax your shutter speed too, and you can always bump up the ISO if you need to. It's really hard to give definitive answers without seeing the scene and the lighting. FWIW, depending upontoday's overcast daylight alone, I would need 1/15 at f/2.8 and 1600 ISO. Not good.
 
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I think Tim only missed a few minor points.

A surprising number of people (including me when I'm in a hurry) rock the camera when they press the shutter; video yourself or get a buddy to watch and practice until the camera remains rock steady. It's surprisingly difficult......

Tripod use.....
Worst offender is wobble caused by pressing the shutter - use a cable release or the self timer.
Next biggest problem is slap from the mirror going up shaking the whole body. Even on a decent tripod it is still noticeable. Full frame cameras are bigger offenders because there is a lot more mirror to get out the way. Use mirror lock-up or Live view.
Then there is IS - some lenses need it turned off or you may get noticeable motion blur at the pixel level.
Also... Wind may vibrate the camera, I've seen buffeting so bad I could see it in movie mode. And the tripod may sink into soft sand - this can be a sod at dusk on the beach.
 
All good points, Duncan. The one about rocking the camera when releasing the shutter is very real for many people, including me. I did intend that to be included within the general category of "camera shake" but it is worth highlighting it separately. :)
 
I think Tim only missed a few minor points.

A surprising number of people (including me when I'm in a hurry) rock the camera when they press the shutter; video yourself or get a buddy to watch and practice until the camera remains rock steady. It's surprisingly difficult......

Tripod use.....
Worst offender is wobble
caused by pressing the shutter - use a cable release or the self timer.
Next biggest problem is slap from the mirror going up shaking the whole body. Even on a decent tripod it is still noticeable. Full frame cameras are bigger offenders because there is a lot more mirror to get out the way. Use mirror lock-up or Live view.
Then there is IS - some lenses need it turned off or you may get noticeable motion blur at the pixel level.
Also... Wind may vibrate the camera, I've seen buffeting so bad I could see it in movie mode. And the tripod may sink into soft sand - this can be a sod at dusk on the beach.

Worst offender with tripods is extending the centre-column. It almost guarantees wobble :eek: Use the centre-column only for fine positioning adjustments, eg with table-top photography or macro, and never just to gain height. If you need more than a couple of inches max, extend the legs; if you can't extend the legs, get a taller tripod.

Some folks seem to think that putting a camera on a tripod is an instant guarantee of shake-free pictures but it's nothing of the sort. Sometimes you can even do better than a tripod with a beanbag or something else hand-held, as there is a lot of vibration damping to be had that way.

If you want to see how bad it can get, mount the centre-column horizontally (that great marketing feature that is the complete opposite of stability) and hang the camera off the end. Shoot at around 1/15sec, without mirror lock-up, and you'll get a nice double image.

I'm liking Tim's wife more every time he posts a pic.
 
Worst offender with tripods is extending the centre-column. It almost guarantees wobble

Read something recently about that along the lines of "why stick a monopod on the top of your expensive tripod"
Never a truer word said
 
Worst offender with tripods is extending the centre-column. It almost guarantees wobble :eek: Use the centre-column only for fine positioning adjustments, eg with table-top photography or macro, and never just to gain height. If you need more than a couple of inches max, extend the legs; if you can't extend the legs, get a taller tripod.

Sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet though and compromise on the extension. I just got the CF Benro Travel Angel M168 (on your recommendation of the brand), and with it weighing just 1.2kg inc. J1 ballhead, the only way it'll hit 160cm is with the centre column out. Then again, its either a slightly wobbly tripod or none at all!
 
Sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet though and compromise on the extension. I just got the CF Benro Travel Angel M168 (on your recommendation of the brand), and with it weighing just 1.2kg inc. J1 ballhead, the only way it'll hit 160cm is with the centre column out. Then again, its either a slightly wobbly tripod or none at all!

Fair point :)

If you use it with the centre column down I'm sure it will be very stable and I would rather bend down a bit than stretch the height unnecessarily.

However, the point I make is really one of awareness, and if you appreciate that sticking the camera on top of a slender pole is fundamentally undermining the design principles which make a tripod effective, regardless of the brand or how big it is, then you'll know to take some precaution and lock the mirror up at least.

I have my Benro 257 sitting here now. With the centre column down, I can't move the head at all. Even using a lot of force, there is no discernable flex whatsoever. On this evidence, I am not one of those people that advocates using a tripod with no centre column in order to ensure maximum stability. If they are soundly engineered, at modest extensions they are okay in principle (even if some are not that solidly made and have squidgy joints and flexy bushings!).

If I raise the centre column one or two inches, again I can push and pull it as hard as I like and there is no discernable movement. Half way up at about 4-5in, I can just detect a little bit of movement as the leverage begins to act on the shaft. It's hardly significant, but I can feel it. A fraction of a mm, but I can't measure it. If I then strech it up to full height, 9in of extension, the same level of force produces clear and visible movement. Not much, I've just tried to measure it and it's less than 1mm as far as I can tell, but that is dramatically more than the zero flex I was getting at lower heights.

And this is a damn good tripod! I know that any of the four Manfrottos that I sold on here last week, and one of them a lot more expensive, would be showing several times that amount of movement, really a lot more (three 190 models and a 458).
 
- if you have IS then be sure to give it time to spin up and stabilise before releasing the shutter;

Thank-you Tim! I think that you may have just solved one of the mysteries about my Pentax k200d.

Prompted by your comment I found this in the Pentax manual:

Pentax manual said:
The Shake Reduction function will not fully work (for about 2 seconds) right after turning on the camera or restoring from Auto Power Off. Wait for the Shake Reduction function to become stable before gently pressing the shutter release button to take a picture. Press the shutter release button halfway. The camera is ready to take pictures when <SR-symbol> appears in the viewfinder.

I always knew I was too impatient!
 
It says 2 seconds from "waking" the camera, not 2 seconds from starting to press the shutter. Doesn't the Pentax have in camera stabilisation? If so it is probably a delay while dust removal does its thing, perhaps. If you only take shots every few minutes, and the camera keeps nodding off in between shots then I can see that this might be a problem if one is not aware.

Apart from those wake-up moments, I would guess the Pentax might actually be ready to stabilise somewhat faster than in-lens IS. But waiting 1/2 a second would probably do no harm. Heck, it must take that to focuse and compose.
 
Hey yeah sorry should have added a bit more info.Im using a nikon d90 with 18-105 kit lens and 1.8 50 mm prime. I shoot in raw and know sharpening needs to be done after but still have issues.

For example

The 50mm f1.8 will be sharp from f2.8 onwards.

Not used the 18-105 but most results with it look sharp, but I would have thought f5.6 at the wide end to f7.1 at the tele end would be around it's sweet spot.

Bear in mind that sometimes a shallow depth of field, using a large aperture will isolate the subject from the background, making the subject stand out and make it appear sharper, because the background is out of focus.
 
I have a d90 as well, if you set the iso to 200 it makes a hell of a difference to the sharpness of the photo instead of using auto iso, one of you more knowlegable chaps can probably offer an explanation why say the difference between say 200 - 600 is so noticable.......which would help me out too :)
 
It says 2 seconds from "waking" the camera, not 2 seconds from starting to press the shutter. Doesn't the Pentax have in camera stabilisation? If so it is probably a delay while dust removal does its thing, perhaps. If you only take shots every few minutes, and the camera keeps nodding off in between shots then I can see that this might be a problem if one is not aware.

Apart from those wake-up moments, I would guess the Pentax might actually be ready to stabilise somewhat faster than in-lens IS. But waiting 1/2 a second would probably do no harm. Heck, it must take that to focuse and compose.

It's not unusual for me to take a picture quite quickly when the camera has auto-powered off. From checking the viewfinder icon last night, I could believe that I might have been firing too soon. Anyway, I'm going to go back to the old brace-and-breath techniques from my film days, which should be long enough for everything to settle, and see if that makes a difference.
 
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