Anyone got a 10-20mm + Cokin Z Pro/Lee filter system?

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If so, could you do me a favour and check if the following setup causes vignetting;

10-20mm @ 10mm (Ideally on a 1.5X crop body) with a standard thickness screw in filter attached on the end, then a Cokin Z-Pro or Lee filter system on the end with 1 or 2 filters. I suspect I know the answer, but ive got my fingers crossed. The reason I ask is because I want a ND10 filter, and a IR filter for my 10-20mm, but im led to believe i'll get fogging or light bleed if I use a non screw in one. So I want to know if I can use a screw in filter + a Cokin/Lee ND grad.:)
 
I have a Sigma 10-20 with a Lee Filter System. I don't though have a standard thickness screw in filter on the lens to start with.

I don't have any issues, but I have the wide angle Lee adapter and can use the full 10mm without problems.

I would talk to Robert White about what you want to achieve , they have always been very helpful when I've contacted them.

http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/lee.htm

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Mr Perceptive
 
Cheers Mr Perceptive. Its actually Robert White I was going to get my Lee kit from. I'll send them an email now.:) So how many filters can you stack at 10mm before you get vignetting? And how close is the first filter to the lens? Thanks for your help.
 
OK here goes:-

Canon 350D, Sigma 10-20mm (at 10mm), Hoya Pro1 Circular Polariser (slimline 5mm) + Lee Filter Kit (Wide angle adapter, with two filter holder) with two filters in it.

filter_test_edited-1.jpg


Is that enough filters for you? - No comments on the poor photo though!

Mr Perceptive
 
Thank you, thats perfect. Well that certainly looks promising doesn't it. You don't by any chance have a standard adapter to use instead of the wideangle one do you? I presume that is close to vignetting, and that if you threw a third filter on it would be too much?
 
Don't have the standard adapter, the adapter is not part of any of the Lee kits, you have to buy it seperately anyway, having invested the ££££ in the Lee filters, you might as well spend the few extra pounds on the wideangle adapter anyway, don't really see the point in the standard one (apart from saving a few £'s)

My Lee filter holder (the one that comes with the starter set only holds two filters, so I can't throw a third one on!!

Mr Perceptive
 
Ok, fair enough. Thanks for the help by the way. A final question; How hard is it to add/remove the screwfit filter with the rest of the kit bolted on? Is it even possible? The reason I ask is because when im using the ND10 filter and IR filter, I have to add/remove them quite a bit when setting the shots up, and I really don't want to have to remove the Lee kit as well.
 
The lee kit clips onto the adaptor ring that would screw into your nd/ir filters. Quite easy to get on and off, but you'd probably be better off with a lee nd filter in the holder I think.
 
Cheers Ghandi. Hmm, that could be very annoying. I really want to go for the Lee ND filter, but at £95ish it could be a very expensive test if it causes fogging due to not being light tight.:thinking: Edit; Just had a thought.. can you get adapter that would allow me to scew the ND filter into the front of the Lee holder. Hmm, this will probably cause vignetting won't it. Why isn't this simple :(
 
The Lee holder has a quick release mechanism from the filter holder, so the filter holder can remain on your lens. You can clearly see the quick release pin on the photos of the starter kit on the Robert White website

With the wide angle adapter, the thread is recessed into the adapter, meaning that the filter holder is flush against your lens when in position.

Personally I would go for the Lee ND filter as suggested above, after all they are the filters used by most of the landscape professionals, so must by default be quite good! I don't have one at present, only grads.

If you don't get on with it, you'll probably get 80%+ of your purchase price back on eBay, since Lee filters get good prices (even second-hand), so really you are risking less than £20 on the ND filter (assuming tha you go for the pro-glass one and not a standard one)

Mr Perceptive
 
I would be going with a custom dipped one, as I need a ND10, which they don't do off the shelf. I think this will be a resin one.
 
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