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one of my pet hates now that I am forced to wear glasses is the stupid size of web pages and text sizes on the net and in magazines these days. Am I the only one who struggles to read sub miniature font on a black background on a webpage that has been reduced to less than half the width of the screen ?

It makes me so darn cross when I have to keep adjusting the font size on my screen .

Ok first of all if there are any web designers on here. why oh why do web designers use only half the available screen width ? what on earth is all that about ? we all spend a fortune on increasing our screen sizes to 19" and 22" etc then you open a webpage and it only fills half the screen width with acres of white space either side ????

Don't even get me started on white text on a black background lol
 
peanuts said:
Ok first of all if there are any web designers on here. why oh why do web designers use only half the available screen width ? what on earth is all that about ? we all spend a fortune on increasing our screen sizes to 19" and 22" etc then you open a webpage and it only fills half the screen width with acres of white space either side ????
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because webpages are designed to be viewable by the lowest possible denominator and there are still people out there using screen resolutions of 800x600 or 1024x768 so you design a website that will work for them as well, the downside of this is that if the website is not designed to scale itself, it will appear much smaller on your screen....

online shops and things would be silly to cater only for higher screen resolutions because anyone who isnt viewing it on a large monitor with a high screen res will find the website much harder to view and if that costs you visitors and ultimately sales its not a good state of affairs
if it bothers you so much change your screen resolution to a lower resolution when your browsing compared to when your doing photo work.
 
As Whitewash says sites still have to be made to fit people using 800x600 resolution :( People are starting to go for 1024x768 as the lowest now, but it wont be a long time yet that 800X600 is complely out the window.

If you have a scroll wheel on your mouse hold ctrl and scroll up and your text should get larger, which should help.....dont get me wrong, but shouldnt you glasses help with small text, not make it worse?
 
To adjust the font size, just hold left ctrl and scroll your mouse wheel. It's no biggie for me, even though I'm no fan of small font sizes.

peanuts said:
Ok first of all if there are any web designers on here. why oh why do web designers use only half the available screen width ? what on earth is all that about ? we all spend a fortune on increasing our screen sizes to 19" and 22" etc then you open a webpage and it only fills half the screen width with acres of white space either side ????
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This is done due to a few reasons.
First, if you want (almost) everyone with a graphical browser to see the same thing, with fluid layouts, it's a bit easier to get the design broken (mostly due to IE quirks, which have to be resolved separately).
Second, it's to prevent empty spaces where it would look rubbish or where it would create, say, one or two lines of text on the whole page. An example could be a grid of products in an e-shop, a web photo gallery or a website with very little text. Also, it's quite easy to get lost in long lines of text if there's a lot of it.
Third, there are some limitations of the current generation of mark-up languages and style sheets, which make designing more difficult than it could be (particularly if you want to avoid tables where they don't need to be).
 
peanuts said:
Don't even get me started on white text on a black background lol
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Made me giggle when I read it so thought I would post it:
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I don't think that the posters were meaning to offer inflammatory responses to your question & I don't believe any offence was intended either (There are a lot of smilies used in both yours & their posts & I believe this has lead the posters to presume that you were taking the replies in good humour.)

I think that as a regular poster & someone that gets involved in the forum from day to day, people have presumed in their joking that their comments would not be taken in a discriminatory fashion.
 
peanuts said:
thats a load of tosh if you don't mind me saying so.
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Nobody is still using any kind of monitor incapable of at least 1024x768 res Even at 800x600 most web pages still leave acres of white space to either side You would have to be using a 20 year old monitor not to support at least 1024x768


your suggestion to reduce my screen resolution to 800 when I have spent £300 on a 1280x1024 res 22" TV/TFT HD monitor is hardly sensible is it.
The point I was trying to make is that some , not all web designers don't consider people that have visual impairment .It has nothing whatsoever to do with screen definition at all it has everything to do with web design fashion trends and lack of consideration in my opinion

I consider all of the responses to this question to be offensive and discriminatory and I have to say I am very dissapointed . How do you all respond to people with hearing impairment or physical disabilities ? do you laugh at them and mock them too ?
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i cant see a bloody thing without my glasses, never have been able to, so erm no im not being offensive towards you and i dont like the way you've instantly jumped on everyone that answered your question that they are being offensive


i was mearly pointing (as was everyone else) put the convention that is in webdesign to design for the lowest denominator, yes very few people still run 800x600 most run upwards of 1024 and this lowest figure will gradually creep up given time but its always going to be some way behind current technology, you might have spent £300 on a monitor (lucky you! wish i had a nice monitor!) but many people using the internet will have had that budget to buy there entire computer
 
Have you tried the Opera web browser? I hear it has a proper zoom function - ie it doesn't just increase the size of the text.
 
The technology which allows us to have wider monitors has moved on much faster than most peoples budget to buy them and too fast for web designers to keep up. That said there is nothing stopping website designers from making sites 'now' which are dynamic in size and to be honest they should be doing so. Pre-existing sites will change as time goes on but for now do as suggested and use a browser that allows you either to zoom in or change the basic font size to something readable for you. (In Opera press ALT P for settings)I have a 20" widescreen and have my base font set to Trebuchet at 18points. Trebuchet is a nice clear font to read and the larger size halps a lot.
 
peanuts said:
I have had to give up my career as an Architect. Nothing you wish to view ever seems to be at the right viewing distance.
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You saying that no architect in the world has discovered varifocals? or the knack of taking the glasses off when not needed?
I got glasses last christmas after 46 years of what I reckoned was perfect vision, they took a bit of getting used to but it wasn't the end of the world!
 
Hi Peanuts,

Speaking as someone with a few eyesight issues of my own, I can see where you are coming from with your initial post.

However, here at TPF Ill think you will find that many members tend to post and debate subjects with genuine advice/comments coupled with a sense of humour, as seen here.
Im sure no-one has intentionally meant to be rude to you, and I dont really see any comments that I would view as inflammatory.
 
Peanuts, most of the responses you have had to this post have been factual and responded to the question you have asked. I can only see one respondant that could be classed as "possibly offensive". Everybody else has either offered a suggestion to ease your problems or explained why things are done the way they have been.

I have a laptop and PC at home that will not display above 1024*768 so to quote your own words

please do not presume that your circumstance and situation necessarily reflects everybody elses . with respect ..It does not
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I can understand that losing 20:20 vision is hard, nobody here has said it isnt, i think you need to read the responses in the way they are intended, and not a personal attack on you.
 
IanC_UK said:
Peanuts, most of the responses you have had to this post have been factual and responded to the question you have asked. I can only see one respondant that could be classed as "possibly offensive". Everybody else has either offered a suggestion to ease your problems or explained why things are done the way they have been.

I have a laptop and PC at home that will not display above 1024*768 so to quote your own words



I can understand that losing 20:20 vision is hard, nobody here has said it isnt, i think you need to read the responses in the way they are intended, and not a personal attack on you.
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I think you need to take off your rose tinted specs Ian. Where comments are made in general terms then I would agree with you however you have clearly failed to see that the comments I am referring to are directed at me personally . Then they become personal and depending on their tone and inference they can become deflamatory rude or somply inconsiderate. I did not invite comments about me persoanlly If you read my initial post it asks for opinions in general on the design of websites . As it seems everyone now wants to jump on the bandwaggon and attack me I shall regard this thread as closed.
 
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