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He needs to join TP and get a few tips :)
 
But just how good can you make a robin look at the end of the day? A robin is a robin...

... now then, who on here can get as good shots of ospreys and golden eagles? ;)
 
purpleclouds said:
But just how good can you make a robin look at the end of the day? A robin is a robin...

... now then, who on here can get as good shots of ospreys and golden eagles? ;)
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We could probably get good ospreys and eagles if we had the chance to be able to go and see them and I have to agree with Janice more DOF needed and better composition
 
I guess that's what reputation brings. Had to laugh at the comments though, who'd have thought a picture of Robin could inspire an anti-europe rant!
 
purpleclouds said:
But just how good can you make a robin look at the end of the day? A robin is a robin...

... now then, who on here can get as good shots of ospreys and golden eagles? ;)
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Get some in my back garden and I'll shoot em :nuts:


I think we should point the DM at the Robin thread, in fact the birds section in general, there is plenty of equal and better quality from people that haven't been paid a fortune either. :thumbs:
 
i like it.../runs
 
kaz10 said:
We could probably get good ospreys and eagles if we had the chance to be able to go and see them and I have to agree with Janice more DOF needed and better composition
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More DOF would mean his background becomes a little more cluttered, as it looks like it is in danger of doing. There doesn't seem to be much in the way or working distance between him, the robin and the background.

Composition looks spot on to me, the branch is a great leading line throughout the frame. The robin could have been a little lower in the frame but he might have then been introducing twigs above the robins head. The rule of 3rds is more of a guideline than a rule.. I think the fact the robin is off centre just adds a little more interest to the shot.

More chances to see them - well you make your own luck in this world ;)
 
Sorry, I think I'm in a minority but I think that is a fine image. Bitingly sharp where it needs to be, colours look spot on and the bird is well framed by the branch and background.
I've looked at it and found my recent Robin images lacking, I'll be surprised if a few others don't do the same :exit:
 
Andy's spent the last few days sitting in a freezing cold hide trying to get some fox photo's. He took the robin in his back garden on his "day off"!
It's OK having pictures on here that may be better, but they need to be in a library if they'e that good. Might get used then.
Webby
 
The robin pic looks just fine to me. As long as the eye is in focus I can't see a problem.
 
purpleclouds said:
More DOF would mean his background becomes a little more cluttered, as it looks like it is in danger of doing. There doesn't seem to be much in the way or working distance between him, the robin and the background.

Composition looks spot on to me, the branch is a great leading line throughout the frame. The robin could have been a little lower in the frame but he might have then been introducing twigs above the robins head. The rule of 3rds is more of a guideline than a rule.. I think the fact the robin is off centre just adds a little more interest to the shot.

More chances to see them - well you make your own luck in this world ;)
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Andy is a great photographer no doubt about it but with this particular image I would rather have the birds legs in focus and not so cramped in the frame we can all have our opinons about composition I know about the rule of thirds etc
 
kaz10 said:
Andy is a great photographer no doubt about it but with this particular image I would rather have the birds legs in focus and not so cramped in the frame we can all have our opinons about composition I know about the rule of thirds etc
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His composition may well have been spot on, the pictures editor could have cropped the image to fit the type:thinking:

I agree with others above who said that the eye was the main focus point, and that the background might become more cluttered with greater DOF
 
blakester said:
His composition may well have been spot on, the pictures editor could have cropped the image to fit the type:thinking:

I agree with others above who said that the eye was the main focus point, and that the background might become more cluttered with greater DOF
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The editor could have well cropped the image I would have thought so and like I said each to their own with the DOF I am allowed to have an opinion:D
 
The photo looks good to me, well done to Andy Rouse, wish I could command such media attention and fee's:)
 
I'll look at the Robin later. I've just been reading in AP that Mr Rouse has changed his style by putting the long lenses away and putting a bit more space around the subject. (I've been doing that for years man and boy!).

Seems like the daily papers haven't caught on yet. What news!
 
kaz10 said:
The editor could have well cropped the image I would have thought so and like I said each to their own with the DOF I am allowed to have an opinion:D
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:agree: to each their own:D
 
It's a good shot, nothing better than we see on here from our resident birders mind.

That said, I have a lot of respect for Andy Rouse - he's a really good photographer - does masses of preperation for his shots and also does some good conservation work too. And he's a top bloke to boot.
 
natjag said:
LOL, has anyone on here sent a winter shot to the daily mail. If not, that may be why your shot hasn't been used.
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Bingo! I sent a shot... and it got used... it was taken at Manchester Airport mind you.. of a big metal bird... :lol:
 
As far as snowy robin portraits go, that's about as good as it gets IMHO :thumbs:
 
Have to say I love it ... even though I agree we've had some stunning Robin shots on here too that probably never get seen outside of the forum, and really should be.
DF pointed me to Andy Rouse's site yesterday, and I perused open-mouthed at the polar bear and owl shots, total class!
 
HoppyUK said:
As far as snowy robin portraits go, that's about as good as it gets IMHO :thumbs:
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agreed.

InaGlo said:
Have to say I love it ... even though I agree we've had some stunning Robin shots on here too that probably never get seen outside of the forum, and really should be.
DF pointed me to Andy Rouse's site yesterday, and I perused open-mouthed at the polar bear and owl shots, total class!
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aye..it is very good.
 
Can't understand the harsh criticism for the image in question, I really like it!
 
InaGlo said:
Have to say I love it ... even though I agree we've had some stunning Robin shots on here too that probably never get seen outside of the forum, and really should be.
DF pointed me to Andy Rouse's site yesterday, and I perused open-mouthed at the polar bear and owl shots, total class!
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If half the raptor/owl images where not captive I would agree with you....
 
Liam said:
If half the raptor/owl images where not captive I would agree with you....
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Remember that AR takes images that sell. If you can get an image of a captive bird, make it look like a wild bird and sell it for profit rather than spend several days / weeks in a hide waiting not knowing if you will ever get the shot and not earning whilst sitting there then I don't see the problem.

It's not just AR that uses that tactic! It is used widely in both the natural history filming and photography industry.

AR is a fine tog, a nice guy and very enthusiastic as well as being very dedicated to his chosen profession. It is an ok robin pic but they used it. How many people out there would have loved their photo on the page instead?

Arron
 
AR also gets to go to these places, anyone with a decent eye could have got the shots if they could get to go to the polar ice caps etc

he also has the gear too.
 
POAH said:
AR also gets to go to these places, anyone with a decent eye could have got the shots if they could get to go to the polar ice caps etc

he also has the gear too.
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He has to still pay for his expeditions and gear... just us like normal folk! :shrug: If he does get any freebies, then you would have be pretty twisted to be jealous about it, the chap has clearly worked hard for it.

Anyone can take a trip to the Arctic circle, the Antarctic... he just has the business ability to be able to make it pay for itself, and a bit more on top. :shrug:
 
I don't think it's an outstanding Robin shot by any means, but I'm sure Andy Rouse doesn't consider it to be either. ;) It's perfectly competent though - a nice seasonal Robin shot, and the limited DOF is the price you pay for long lenses at fairly close distances when stopping down isn't always possible.
 
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