Alternatives to Lencarta Foldable Beauty Dish?

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Several people have recommended the Lencarta Foldable Beauty Dish to me as good portable solution for on location environmental portraits. However, I can't find them in stock anywhere, what other brands do people have experience of and recommend?
 
I've just checked with Lencarta and confirm that they are out of stock, which was a surprise to me as there were loads in stock last week when I visited their warehouse.

Unfortunately, although there are loads of alternatives available, the Lencarta ones are unique.
 
I realise this may be a bit of a noob question but i am new to flash and modifiers. What is the difference in results between the '65cm Rice Bowl Parabolic Softbox' & the '60cm Foldable Beauty Dish'. Also would you recommend white or silver? I am hoping to use the light for environmental portraits using my speedlight and later a Godox AD200. I'd like the light to look pretty natural if possible. I have been shooting for years but always previously with available light and I am new to flash and modifiers.
 
I've just checked with Lencarta and confirm that they are out of stock, which was a surprise to me as there were loads in stock last week when I visited their warehouse.

Unfortunately, although there are loads of alternatives available, the Lencarta ones are unique.
Thanks for that. I guess I just have to wait for more stock then?
 
Some questions remain here; and I’ll offer some answers.

What is the subject of your ‘environmental portraits’? Cos I should add a beauty dish is a fairly specialist tool (models with perfect skin), though I should add the Lencarta one isn’t a one trick pony and also works as a reasonable sized and fairly round softbox.

Of those 2 pixapro items? It’s interesting cos the Lencarta product is about half way between them, where that ‘beauty dish’ isn’t really round, but the deeper parabolic is too deep end genuinely not a beauty dish or actually ‘parabolic’ either. The difference between a white and silver beauty dish is that the white is a tiny bit more forgiving of skin imperfections.
 
Some questions remain here; and I’ll offer some answers.

What is the subject of your ‘environmental portraits’? Cos I should add a beauty dish is a fairly specialist tool (models with perfect skin), though I should add the Lencarta one isn’t a one trick pony and also works as a reasonable sized and fairly round softbox.

Of those 2 pixapro items? It’s interesting cos the Lencarta product is about half way between them, where that ‘beauty dish’ isn’t really round, but the deeper parabolic is too deep end genuinely not a beauty dish or actually ‘parabolic’ either. The difference between a white and silver beauty dish is that the white is a tiny bit more forgiving of skin imperfections.
Thanks for clarifying Phil. I have spoken to Lencarta and they are hoping to have more stock in late July. Having taken on board your advice and the opinion of a couple of others I am minded to wait for the Lencarta foldable beauty dish.
 
This will be a long and boring answer, but it's a good question that deserves a full answer:)

A beauty dish is a large round reflector that has a deflector fitted to prevent a hotspot of light from the flashtube directly hitting the subject. It has a parabolic shape, which controls the spread of light extremely well.

Beauty dishes are really designed for photographing beautiful models who have very high cheekbones and perfect skin, so basically east Asian and African people, although some European people were born lucky too:)

Used with the wrong model, they should be called "Ugly dish" instead of "Beauty dish" But they're also great for photographing people with very "craggy" faces, where we want to accentuate features, scars and so on, and I've often used them for dramatic product photography too.

Silver ones create a more dramatic lighting effect than white ones but they also amplify any faults in either their use or in the model's complexion.

The leading make is Mola, there is simply nothing like them in either efficiency or cost. See https://www.mola-light.com/product/demi/

Very few people can afford Mola and there used to be a lot of copies around that worked well, a price compromise that suited most people. But, times change, the metal ones are large, heavy and can't be taken apart, so everyone started wanting folding ones made from fabric - not as good but more convenient. Most were very badly designed, so I became involved in designing a very good folding one with the best possible shape, depth, deflector and materials. This could be used both as a beauty dish and as a softbox, just remove the deflector and add either one or two of the supplied diffusers and we end up with a softbox. This, inevitably, was then copied by the myriad of largely backstreet Chinese factories, which as always found ways of simplifying production and cutting down on material costs, and sold by other firms all over the world. I haven't seen/tried most of them, but those I have tried are nothing like a real beauty dish, the shapes seem to me to be wrong and the materials seem to me to be flimsy, but they can still be a useful tool, so there's nothing wrong with buying one if you want to.
 
Having used themin my old studio back in the day (solid ones not foldable) I'd suggest you may be better off with a brolly and stand, or softbox, miles better for general portraits IMHO .
 
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