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Do you use custom picture styles?

The reason I ask is I have been experimenting with the picture style editor and I am impressed by the quality of files I can produce when bumping up the saturation and sharpness settings.

I want to try and get JPEGS out of the camera which require little amount of PP as possible. My thinking is that if I have the camera apply the sharpening and saturation tweaks i'll have less to do in lightroom.

What do you guys do?
 
Yep. I have a sports setting which is up a bit on sharpness, contrast and saturation. The result in jpegs look stonking. I think it's up 2 on sharpness, and 1 on contrast and saturation. Best to play about a bit.
 
Do the files need much PP, or does the camera do a pretty good job with the JPEGS?

Also do you apply local colour adjustments in the picture style like saturate the greens more for example? One final thing do you have different sport styles for different weather/lighting conditions?

Sorry for all the Q's :)
 
Depends really. I'll be using Lightroom and after I've selected my picks, I'll do what is needed for each one. This may involve a bit of contrast, some noise reduction, or some more sharpening. Very fast with Lightroom.

I don't have differerent styles for different types of sports - just gets too complicated really. If it's very gloomy eg in a gym indoors I'll use raw to have that bit more processing latitude but that's rare.

Keep it simple otherwise you'll find yourself on the wrong settings with a load of duff pics.
 
I have sharpening turned up to 4 in camera. haven't adjusted anything else. All i do with my files is tweek the levels and contrast, normally the Auto setting is sufficient, if not i'll adjust manually. takes me around 30 seconds a picture for opening, cropping, tweeking and saving/resizing
 
On a 1D3 I have

sharpness =3
contrast +1
sat =0
color tone +1
 
The in camera picture style on my 1D only goes up to 7
 
if its a bit iffy in the camera when viewing it, i leave it..pretty much auto levels and unmask sharpen a bit for me thats it, the quicker the better!
 
on canon 50D i use standard picture setting but i agree sharpness could go up a bit but always shoot on cloudy white balance for outside whatever the weather.Also use centre focus point and I shoot large JPEG. Just a little levels work and smart sharpen for pp. In a gym i agree shoot on Raw if at all possible in order to get white balance correct.
 
Rovers_Andy said:
I have sharpening turned up to 4 in camera. haven't adjusted anything else. All i do with my files is tweek the levels and contrast, normally the Auto setting is sufficient, if not i'll adjust manually. takes me around 30 seconds a picture for opening, cropping, tweeking and saving/resizing
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Tried out one today on mine [based on a D2 custom setting], with the sharpness up to 5, and it seems to work well.
 
PDS said:
Sorry, I thought we were talking about Sport Photography!?! :shrug:

The colours at sporting events would normally be bolder than squirrels!

Nice piccies of squirrels by the way!
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No1 had a fair bit of PP but pics 2, 3 and 4 are more or less straight out of the camera apart from a crop to remove the jumps and a mini sharpen after the resize.

look here
 
Rovers_Andy said:
I have sharpening turned up to 4 in camera. haven't adjusted anything else. All i do with my files is tweek the levels and contrast, normally the Auto setting is sufficient, if not i'll adjust manually. takes me around 30 seconds a picture for opening, cropping, tweeking and saving/resizing
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Andy do you remember what settings you used on the 1D? sharness etc?
 
ali g said:
Andy do you remember what settings you used on the 1D? sharness etc?
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Hi Ali IIRC i had it set to the highest in camera, when my canon kit was working :lol: it seemed to do the job.

I would ask Tony for a list of his Cfn settings as they work nicely
 
Rovers_Andy said:
Hi Ali IIRC i had it set to the highest in camera, when my canon kit was working :lol: it seemed to do the job.

I would ask Tony for a list of his Cfn settings as they work nicely
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I dont like to have my in camera sharpening too high as it seems? to ruin pics from a long pull..OK on closer or full frame.. sharp makes the picture POP!.. but try a long pull on an over sharpened pic and its naff.. Therefore I am with photobeef.. One unsharp mask does the trick when required :)

ADDYONBIT
What do we think the effect of high sharp in camera is on a long pull from a high ISO shot?


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Also whats the point of knowing other peoples in camera settings if your not using the same lens.. surely that ahs a great bearing on color and contrast ect?
 
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I go the other way and have no in-camera processing I use the faithfull setting which is 0 across the board, and do all the PP'ing in photoshop, especially for sharpening of images, you have more control in PP
 
pete.rush said:
I go the other way and have no in-camera processing I use the faithfull setting which is 0 across the board, and do all the PP'ing in photoshop, especially for sharpening of images, you have more control in PP
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right concept.. not enough time...
 
KIPAX said:
right concept.. not enough time...
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Do you use the dual card slots and capture RAW on the CF and JPeg on the SD card?
 
pete.rush said:
Do you use the dual card slots and capture RAW on the CF and JPeg on the SD card?
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Had dual card slot for years now and never used.. one CF card for jpgs ... seriously no time to mess about wiht any other version of the same pic.. I either get the shot or I dont..
 
IMO settings are variable according to the shoot. I have one setting for interior under low contrast lights and another if using with flash and another for exteriors etc.
 
I use dual card slots and for sport record jpeg to both, nice to have a back up if i format the card in error (has been done) or becomes corrupt (hasnt done as yet). For anything else i shoot RAW to CF and jpeg to SD, especially useful when shooting with models as i can burn a quick copy of images for them to take away and chose some to be retouched.

As for Picture styles, i have the sharpness notched up by 2, contrast and saturation up by 1. I will be using a mkiv for the first time this weekend so will have a play around and see what suits that best
 
KIPAX said:
Had dual card slot for years now and never used.. one CF card for jpgs ... seriously no time to mess about wiht any other version of the same pic.. I either get the shot or I dont..
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Yep, I've never used the SD card slot. JPeg's all the way for motorsport and aviation
 
pete.rush said:
Yep, I've never used the SD card slot. JPeg's all the way for motorsport and aviation
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I only know of one Football tog who shoots RAW and that is because the bulk of his usage is for magazines etc
 
I shot RAW accidentally for 20 minutes at Wigan last week, and if I'm honest, there wasn't much difference in speed to shooting JPEG apart from the RAW options on opening in Photoshop - which all went unchanged anyway.
 
purpleclouds said:
I shot RAW accidentally for 20 minutes at Wigan last week, and if I'm honest, there wasn't much difference in speed to shooting JPEG apart from the RAW options on opening in Photoshop - which all went unchanged anyway.
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did the RAW files look better than the Jpegs from the rest of the game?
 
Rovers_Andy said:
did the RAW files look better than the Jpegs from the rest of the game?
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Good question. I've not got them on me at the moment but will look later..! Will be hard to tell though, as it was reasonable daylight earlier in the game.. then floodlit towards the end.

Might shoot RAW on Saturday and compare them to a previous day game at DW :)
 
purpleclouds said:
Good question. I've not got them on me at the moment but will look later..! Will be hard to tell though, as it was reasonable daylight earlier in the game.. then floodlit towards the end.

Might shoot RAW on Saturday and compare them to a previous day game at DW :)
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Would be interesting to see what (if any) difference there is :)
 
Rovers_Andy said:
Would be interesting to see what (if any) difference there is :)
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I'm going to be the lazy bloke here and say I can't be arsed with doing the RAW conversion. I just find it takes so long to do...I much prefer to get it right on JPEG and leave it at that!

In terms of altering the picture style. I can't say I've ever done it. My usual setting is Standard with adjustment to 3,0,1,0.

Can't actually remember which number is which, I just know it to be that.
 
jamesb84 said:
I'm going to be the lazy bloke here and say I can't be arsed with doing the RAW conversion. I just find it takes so long to do...I much prefer to get it right on JPEG and leave it at that!

In terms of altering the picture style. I can't say I've ever done it. My usual setting is Standard with adjustment to 3,0,1,0.

Can't actually remember which number is which, I just know it to be that.
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I'm all for being the lazy bloke :D just curious if it makes any difference, though i doubt you would see it when printed in the tabloids
 
in fact if using high iso raw will look worse than jpg... all jpgs are compressed and as such will lose some noise.. raw is raw and wont lose any noise..

the difference is you can do a better job with noise reduction on raw... but that all takes time..
 
KIPAX said:
in fact if using high iso raw will look worse than jpg... all jpgs are compressed and as such will lose some noise.. raw is raw and wont lose any noise..

the difference is you can do a better job with noise reduction on raw... but that all takes time..
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Whats this thing called Noise, is it something which is inbuilt into a Canon DSLR, can i download some noise from somewhere or is there a firmware update for my Nikon D3s which will help me to introduce this alien phonomena just so i can see what all the fuss is about.
 
Gary Coyle said:
Whats this thing called Noise, is it something which is inbuilt into a Canon DSLR, can i download some noise from somewhere or is there a firmware update for my Nikon D3s which will help me to introduce this alien phonomena just so i can see what all the fuss is about.
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Getting a bit like whiteflyer now to be honest ;)

At 3 times the price of my 1D3, I'd expect better handling! :razz:







:p
 
Sorry Phil, i didn't expect you to react, i was hoping a certain Canon shooter who just needs that final push would take the bait.
 
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