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Hi Guys/Girls. So i got a canon 1000D for christmas and i loved it, got a 50mm prime lens for it for those portrait/blurred background shots. have played with it no end. but now would like to move up to more features like HD video better image quality for A3 printing, a more future proof Camera body. Am not more biased to Canon or Nikon, just looking for opinions on the best DSLR camera out there for around a £1000 (ie) Body+kit lens.
Any Advice welcome.

Nick :>:)
 
I'd look at a 550D, 600D or 60D. The image quality at A3 won't be much different to your 1000D, but they'll do video and have more modern features.
Then spend the rest on a better lens, maybe a good zoom like a tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 or canon 15-85 or another couple of primes like a 30 or 85mm.

You can also pick up many adapters for canon mount to use old manual focus lenses that you can get quite cheap. This is perfect for video since it's manual focus mostly anyway.

The 550D will give you the most money left for lenses, but the 600D and 60D both have articulated screens which could be very useful for video and the 60D offers better build and more external controls.
 
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If your going Nikon, I'd look for a used D90, and spend the rest on Glass. If you sell your current canons you'll have a little extra cash aswell.
 
Get a 7D, it's the ultimate crop sensor camera, so you can't get any better.....at least until the 8D or 7D Mk 2 is released, which probably won't be that far away!
 
If you are after a better camera then probably this is the time to look at and consider different brands and then stick to one. Once you buy a better camera and fast glass then it will be too expensive to jump ship later on.

I dont know much about Canon cameras but from experience Sony A700, Nikon D90, D300(s) are great cameras
 
Thanks for the advice so far, does anyone have any experience with the Nikon D7000.
 
I've read it's a superb camera, but you won't get much with it for £1000 except the kitlens.
 
With £1k to spend.. look for a body around £500 or less and save the rest for a couple of good lenses. Maybe a used 40D/50D. But if you want new, the 7D and save for the lenses later.
 
I have the D7000 had the D90. if you have no glass already and a £1000 budget get the D90. The D7000 is technically superior but you will not get one with a kit lens for £1000.
 
Grays of westminster offering now:
Nikon D7000 + 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR Kit for £1,040.00
 
Ok, so going to buy a camera tomorrow still on the fence about what brand Canon or Nikon. thanks for all the advice. :>
Nick.
 
Jackwow said:
Get a 7D, it's the ultimate crop sensor camera, so you can't get any better.....at least until the 8D or 7D Mk 2 is released, which probably won't be that far away!
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Not true, from base ISO to 1600 an E-5 will outdo a 7d, and that's where it counts (at normal ISOs). E-5 arguably has faster AF too (Oly claim with the 12-60 attached it has the fastest AF system of ANY camera). Oh and it's totally environmentally sealed.
 
dd1989 said:
Not true, from base ISO to 1600 an E-5 will outdo a 7d, and that's where it counts (at normal ISOs).
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That's not what I take from the dpreview review of the E-5 vs its competitors: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse5/page13.asp

Reading the review summary paragraph (which changes as you change RAW & ISO in the pulldown menu) it sounds like it produces great results given a 12Mpix camera and lower anti-aliasing filter, but that the noise it produces is higher at nearly all ISO settings....
 
Dolbs said:
Thanks for the advice so far, does anyone have any experience with the Nikon D7000.
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Yes I've just bought the D7000 and it's awesome, the pictures are so crisp, I upgraded from the d80 and feel it's worth every penny. Go for it you won't be disappointed.
 
just go and play with some cameras and feel for your self, as for the 7d being the best crop camera well thats what all the canon users say, but the 7d, d300s, d7000, pentax k5,oly e5 are all top cameras with the positives and weakspots.
the pentax and oly have the best weather sealing by far the oly is suppose to have the fastast af on the market, the 7d and d300s af are very fast and about the same, the pentax is very good to and i would say its about the same as the d300, and i expect the d7000 to be the same,
high iso the d7000 and pentax k5 should be best,
and resolution the canon 7d has more mp then the d7000 and k5(same sensor) then the d300s and e5, as for real world noticible difference it wont make a great deal of difference the mp .
 
arad85 said:
That's not what I take from the dpreview review of the E-5 vs its competitors: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse5/page13.asp

Reading the review summary paragraph (which changes as you change RAW & ISO in the pulldown menu) it sounds like it produces great results given a 12Mpix camera and lower anti-aliasing filter, but that the noise it produces is higher at nearly all ISO settings....
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Popular Photography (US based magazine).

'That said, the E-5’s AF proved faster than that of the EOS 7D and the D300s'

"Though the E-5 finds itself on the lower end of pixel counts for cameras
in its price range, it still easily managed to score an Extremely High in overall image quality from ISO 100 through ISO 1600 in the Popular Photography test Lab."

"At all sensitivity levels save their shared maximum of ISO 6400, this Olympus had lower noise than the D300s—which says a lot, given that Nikon has been a league leader in noise control in recent years."

"the E-5 outperformed the Canon in noise control from ISO 100 through ISO 1600."
 
So..... which camera did you end up buying???

heard the d7000 is the better low light performer against the 7d but the 7d wins if you're gonna be filming a lot. I too am looking for a new dslr and can't decide which of those two to go for.
 
dd1989 said:
Popular Photography (US based magazine).

'That said, the E-5’s AF proved faster than that of the EOS 7D and the D300s'

"Though the E-5 finds itself on the lower end of pixel counts for cameras
in its price range, it still easily managed to score an Extremely High in overall image quality from ISO 100 through ISO 1600 in the Popular Photography test Lab."

"At all sensitivity levels save their shared maximum of ISO 6400, this Olympus had lower noise than the D300s—which says a lot, given that Nikon has been a league leader in noise control in recent years."

"the E-5 outperformed the Canon in noise control from ISO 100 through ISO 1600."
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DxO disagrees with that, and though I don't believe in judging camera's abilities by the numbers their sensor produces, they do get the numbers right
DxO 7D vs D300s vs E-5

The 7D has the best noise control, the D300s has the best dynamic range and marginally better colour depth, and the E-5 scores low on everything.
 
dd1989 said:
Popular Photography (US based magazine).
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I take anything a magazine says with a very heavy pinch of salt - particularly if well respected review sites disagree with their findings.
 
^ I'd rather read a review that looked at the images and said "they look good' rather than a lab testing a sensor and producing a load of numbers, which mean absolutely nothing in the real world. How can we even judge what difference the results mean in a real world context...you can't/
 
arad85 said:
I take anything a magazine says with a very heavy pinch of salt - particularly if well respected review sites disagree with their findings.
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Wasn't aware things printed on the Internet were more valid than long established physically printed media :cuckoo:
 
dd1989 said:
Wasn't aware things printed on the Internet were more valid than long established physically printed media :cuckoo:
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The good sites tend to be less biased and based on numerical comparisons plus the user can check the findings visibly (have a look at the E-5 review on dpreview and you can compare against other cameras looking at the same scene directly).
 
arad85 said:
The good sites tend to be less biased and based on numerical comparisons plus the user can check the findings visibly (have a look at the E-5 review on dpreview and you can compare against other cameras looking at the same scene directly).
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I did, and for noise performance it said the cameras were for all intents and purposes equal in a normal ISO range. Personally I don't give a damn about anything above ISO 1600. The review on DP also said the E-5 resolved detail beyond it's testing scale, something even some FF camera struggle to do.
 
dd1989 said:
Popular Photography (US based magazine).

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"the E-5 outperformed the Canon in noise control from ISO 100 through ISO 1600."
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dd1989 said:
I did, and for noise performance it said the cameras were for all intents and purposes equal in a normal ISO range.
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So that's consistent to you?

BTW, my interpretation of the text in DPReview isn't the same as yours - unless you mean normal ISO range is 100-400....
 
arad85 said:
So that's consistent to you?

BTW, my interpretation of the text in DPReview isn't the same as yours - unless you mean normal ISO range is 100-400....
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Which I do consider to be normal.

I have 10,322 photos in Lightroom at the moment, 415 of them are at ISO 1600, 343 at ISO 800, and the rest at 400 or below. How many people's shooting patterns genuinely require a need for clean ISO 10 million.
 
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