Adobe may now pirate your content

So that's why Affinity have a flash sale on today :LOL: :exit:
 
Modern tech firms seem to be getting more and more invasive. I know it sounds tin foil hat.....but I'm getting sick of Alexa, I tell her to turn the lights on and she's asking if I want to set up a routine for going to bed. No, just turn the damn light on!

Or amazon prime, chirping up through Alexa, "you haven't purchase X in a while, do you want to order again?" etc

Does make me think about looking at non-subscription photo editing.
 
All your pictures are belong to us.

Content stored on a local PC with Adobe software installed won't be scanned, the biz said.
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I'll continue with 'classic' for now, but can see me switching out when my licence payment is finished. The current version of LR is just less good than LR6, the AI tools do not work well (or at all) and the one key reason for switching - to directly import A7III images instead of converting them to .dng first - isn't an issue with other software ayway.
 
Dave Canon said:
never use Adobe Cloud storage but keep everything on my own disks.

Dave
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That ain't gonna cut it. Its in the T&C for PS/LR that they can scrape your data even on your local disk.

Being generous their argument is that some of the new AI tools in PS mean that your image data has to be processed by their servers so they need to upload it and for that you have to grant them permission, which you automatically do since the T&C for using PS says you do. Of course they granted themselves blanket permission, rather than limiting it for a specific purpose.
 
sirch said:
some of the new AI tools in PS mean that your image data has to be processed by their servers so they need to upload it
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It looks like they will use a credits system for using these AI tools. It will be interesting to see how many credits you get with your subscription and the cost if you need more.
 
The other day I looked online for fishing bait. I have used the company before so started typing their name into the address bar and used the auto-complete. No google required. I looked at the price and availibilty and closed the browser down. My wife logged into fb on her tablet device and the first advert she saw was for the same fishing bait from the same online shop. There must be some facility for fb to harvest the ip address of people browsing retailers who then pay fb for the advert.

I won't be using that retailer again.

I had a similar experience on here. On a thread about Rollei cameras I made a post concerning the Singapore made 35 models. The next time I looged onto yahoo mail the banner advert was for Singapore Airlines.
 
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Clive K said:
The other day I looked online for fishing bait. I have used the company before so started typing their name into the address bar and used the auto-complete. No google required. I looked at the price and availibilty and closed the browser down. My wife logged into fb on her tablet device and the first advert she saw was for the same fishing bait from the same online shop. There must be some facility for fb to harvest the ip address of people browsing retailers who then pay fb for the advert.

I won't be using that retailer again.

I had a similar experience on here. On a thread about Rollei cameras I made a post concerning the Singapore made 35 models. The next time I looged onto yahoo mail the banner advert was for Singapore Airlines.
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Everywhere does it.

If you don't like it don't use the internet at all and sell your smartphone.

There's no getting around it.
 
Clive K said:
I won't be using that retailer again.
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That's a bit harsh TBH. Retailers need to advertise online and it is the advertising "agencies" that are tracking you, not the retailer themselves. There is nothing that retailers can do about it.

All the major social media companies have freely admitted that they use "location services" to target advertising so if you are searching for something whilst spending time in the same location as someone else then it is likely they will be targeted with some of your search results.
 
Clive K said:
The other day I looked online for fishing bait. I have used the company before so started typing their name into the address bar and used the auto-complete. No google required. I looked at the price and availibilty and closed the browser down. My wife logged into fb on her tablet device and the first advert she saw was for the same fishing bait from the same online shop. There must be some facility for fb to harvest the ip address of people browsing retailers who then pay fb for the advert.

I won't be using that retailer again.

I had a similar experience on here. On a thread about Rollei cameras I made a post concerning the Singapore made 35 models. The next time I looged onto yahoo mail the banner advert was for Singapore Airlines.
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I bet you blindly accepted the cookies.
 
Clive K said:
No google required.
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But you have used Google previously. That was enough to give THEM permission to harvest your browsing data and share it with their advertisers. Like the bait supplier. If you used Facebook then your 'privacy' has been rogered senseless by their sharing of your data.

You are paying for your use of their services.
 
ancient_mariner said:
But you have used Google previously. That was enough to give THEM permission to harvest your browsing data and share it with their advertisers. Like the bait supplier. If you used Facebook then your 'privacy' has been rogered senseless by their sharing of your data.

You are paying for your use of their services.
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I haven't used google for that purpose for years and I haven't got a fb account. The advert came up on my wife's fb account.
 
Mozthecat said:
I was just typing a message to say it could well be cookies if his wife has ever used her Facebook account on his device...

(All I will say is be glad it was just fishing tackle and your partners device!)
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My device has never been used for fb, twitter, whatsapp or anything like that.

(Which is why I will not be using that company again. )
 
sirch said:
That's a bit harsh TBH. Retailers need to advertise online and it is the advertising "agencies" that are tracking you, not the retailer themselves. There is nothing that retailers can do about it.

All the major social media companies have freely admitted that they use "location services" to target advertising so if you are searching for something whilst spending time in the same location as someone else then it is likely they will be targeted with some of your search results.
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If what you are saying is true then the advertising agencies must work for the retailer as it was the same retailer's advert that came up. I'm not funding this sort of thing.

Same with pop up blockers. If I look for something and a pop up blocker comes up with an advert I just close the page and look elsewhere. There are plenty of other options where I can spend my money.
 
You're on the 'net so your data is fair game. You can spend waste loads of time trying to avoid giving it away but it'll still get out there.
 
My advice is to delete your browsing history and cookies. As some web sites use tracking cookies to locate the physical I.P address for your device.

Also Tony Northrup on YouTube has just released a video on Adobe looking at your images and videos.

I use an older PS & LR classic stand alone which I have vlock them from the web via the firewall. As Adobe kept on target to upgrade and my license has expired!
 
Clive K said:
I haven't used google for that purpose for years and I haven't got a fb account. The advert came up on my wife's fb account.
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My point is that you have used Google once, at least. That's enough for them to see where you browse and organise ads to all devices and accounts that can be linked to you. So your wife's Facebook feed is a natural place to show ads. It doesn't matter whether she is interested or not.
 
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I just stupidly renewed my Photographic package with Adobe a week or two ago. I never use their cloud storage, nor any other cloud storage as it's simply saving your data on someone elses computer... I want to control my data, as much as physically possible, social media is the only thing where I have more than usual data shared.

I have now blocked connections to Adobe via LuLu and I edit my photos using an external hard drive, bit slower but it means I don't keep any data stored locally which adobe might have access too. Might look into blocking the host files, like back in the day but I haven't go around to it yet.
 
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sirch said:
And BTW, who would even have an Alexa in their house?
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It's the only way we can get radio. DAB, FM, etc is weak to useless in most rooms.
 
Hardly pirated is it if you've agreed to the T&C's, don't like the T&C's don't do business with them, simple. At the end of the day they have developed some outstanding software over the decades that makes life much easier, but there's still people that will moan and whine about the big bad corporation. Photographers in particular seem to be tight fisted and miserable when it comes to paying for software but have no problem wasting shed loads of cash on the latest gear that they neither need or know how to make best use of.
 
imattersuk said:
Hardly pirated is it if you've agreed to the T&C's, don't like the T&C's don't do business with them, simple. At the end of the day they have developed some outstanding software over the decades that makes life much easier, but there's still people that will moan and whine about the big bad corporation. Photographers in particular seem to be tight fisted and miserable when it comes to paying for software but have no problem wasting shed loads of cash on the latest gear that they neither need or know how to make best use of.
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I must admit I rarely ever read all the t’s and c’s but that’s on me, not the developer. I don’t like the idea of people having access to local data but I guess there’s no getting around it and I can’t be bothered to learn new software.

My photos are pants anyway, but I can imagine pro photographers who rely on said photos for a living might not be too happy.

I’d be surprised if Adobe did anything as low as making money from users’ photos but who knows :thinking:
 
Stephen L said:
It's the only way we can get radio. DAB, FM, etc is weak to useless in most rooms.
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If you've got digital TV (Freeview, Freesat etc.) you can get plenty of radio on there.
 
Nod said:
If you've got digital TV (Freeview, Freesat etc.) you can get plenty of radio on there.
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Yes, but that’s just one room. Got 4 Alexa units and they work perfectly - and never ask if I want to buy anything. Quite happy, thanks. ;)
 
ecoleman said:
It’s a bit like a VPN. Hides your true IP address and location.

Feeds websites different random IP addresses so they can’t track you from site to site.
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Thanks, been reading up on it. Unfortunately it only works with Safari for browsing history, not sure how it can help prevent adobe accessing your local drive?
 
Do these new terms allow them to access all your content that was developed using their software that is stored on your hard drive and/or on their cloud, or is it just that on their cloud?
 
Brentor said:
Do these new terms allow them to access all your content that was developed using their software that is stored on your hard drive and/or on their cloud, or is it just that on their cloud?
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To complicate that question any time you use their AI features it will pass local stored files(or parts thereof) to their servers and back down as the AI doesn't appear to work locally, so just where it is stored may not provide the full answer.
 
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