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Words cannot describe my anger right now - I'm actually shaking.

Basically, there's a dog that we've passed in the past when walking Jeff. Everytime it's escaped it's house and I've returned her home - never have I recieved any thanks - just a "we don't know how she keeps getting out" reply.

Today it's attacked Jeff whilst Jen and her mum was walking him. Thought he was a gonner. He's got puncture wounds on his stomach apparently, and the owners didn't even bat an eyelid or apologies! Just again said "we don't know how she keeps getting out".

Jeff even managed to slip his collar in the chaos.

I've reported it to 101 and will be making a full statement.

I'm a big dog lover, and would hate to see the dog destroyed. In fact, I'm a big believer that a dogs behavior is the result of it's upbringing.

Oh, and stereotypically, it was a staffie. (Jeff is a Bedlington)
 
What a shame :(

I do hope Jeff recovers fully and returns to normal health.

Clearly the other dog's owners have not taken care to see she doesn't get out easily.

Good luck with the reporting to the Police - you could also try the RSPCA because the dog keeps getting out - are they taking proper care of it ?
 
We have an appointment with the police tomorrow, and they said they'll probably get a controlling order.
 
Ok, so maybe not the most horrific pictures, but it shouldn't have happened at all

Back Leg
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Front Leg
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His, erm, man parts
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Poor Jeff :( OK none of them are life threatening - but it will have given him a few unpleasant moments :(

No dog should have to go through that - because folk can't / ? won't ensure their own dogs stay on/in their own territory
 
Our cat was attacked by two dogs. We made damned sure the dogs' owner paid all our vet bills. Hope your dog is OK soon.
 
I hope the police don't fudge this. Too many such incidents are tolerated.
 
That's crap. Some people make me emarassed as a dog owner.

As you know whose responsible for the dog you could try civil action to recover vets costs. Doesn't solve the issue but every dog owner I know would pay those without hesitation if their dogs caused an issue
 
Back home, Jen is beating herself up. Genuinely thought he was going to die. Reckons if she was on her own he would have as it was her mum who managed to grab the staffie.

Turns out, Jen was tring to pull Jeff to her, but the staffie had a hold of Jeff. Jeff's collar then came off so he ran, but the staffie caught jeff, nudged him to his side and that's how he got the bite marks around his man bits. Because Jen's mum had gone to the staffies house, she was closer to them at this point and managed to grab the collar of the staffie to stop it all!

It could have been sooooo much worse.

Side effects so far now are that Jen doesn't want to walk him around any of the nearby estates, and also won't go on her own. So that limits us to walking routes for "quick walks" now.....

f*****g c**ts!

Oh, and the shock has just hit Jen - she's in bits
 
RandomlySet said:
We have an appointment with the police tomorrow, and they said they'll probably get a controlling order.
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Here in DK the outcome for the attacking dog would most likely be an appointment with the vet for the long sleep. Hope your dog is ok. And all the best to Jen, that was an awfull experience.
 
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Sorry to hear about this, really annoys the hell out of me when scrotes can't control their dogs. Hope Jeff and Jen both recover quickly.
 
Dave70D said:
I think you are right to report it as, if the staffie got out again but it was a child, are the owners going to say the same thing.
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Just because a dog attacks another dog doesn't mean it will attack a child !!! Dogs that hate other dogs are often perfectly ok with humans

Sorry to hear about Jeff :(
Your wife's feeling are perfectly normal it may take a while to get her confidence back
Hope all turns out ok for them both
 
That nasty dog will always look to attack Jeff again so watch out.
 
You did right to report it. It could have attacked another dog with worse consequences. The owners should be held to account for it repeatedly getting out.
If it got out just once or twice then fair enough, these things happen, but repeatedly is inexcusable.

Our dog was attacked a few months ago on the park near our house while our 12yr old was walking her.
The other dog (Staffie type I think, according to what he told me), just ran up to Snowie and started attacking her. She gave what for, because she's not one to shy away like that, but she too suffered some puncture wounds in her stomach.

The dog itself had no owner nearby and it ran off, never to be seen again. No idea where it came from.
450 quid and one cone of shame later she's fine now. I'm 150 down on the insurance excess of course :(

PS that last shot looks bloody pornographic! Lucky I'm not in work, people will be looking over my shoulder wondering what the hell kind of sites I visit!

I'm glad Jeff's OK though. How is he behaving since?
Jen's feelings are perfectly normal. Just get her out there walking him again (go with her too), and she'll soon get into the swing of it again.
 
Marcel said:
You did right to report it. It could have attacked another dog with worse consequences. The owners should be held to account for it repeatedly getting out.
If it got out just once or twice then fair enough, these things happen, but repeatedly is inexcusable.

Our dog was attacked a few months ago on the park near our house while our 12yr old was walking her.
The other dog (Staffie type I think, according to what he told me), just ran up to Snowie and started attacking her. She gave what for, because she's not one to shy away like that, but she too suffered some puncture wounds in her stomach.

The dog itself had no owner nearby and it ran off, never to be seen again. No idea where it came from.
450 quid and one cone of shame later she's fine now. I'm 150 down on the insurance excess of course :(

PS that last shot looks bloody pornographic! Lucky I'm not in work, people will be looking over my shoulder wondering what the hell kind of sites I visit!

I'm glad Jeff's OK though. How is he behaving since?
Jen's feelings are perfectly normal. Just get her out there walking him again (go with her too), and she'll soon get into the swing of it again.
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If that looks pornographic, you've dated some seriously hairy dudes, Marcel!!
 
He's gradually got better throughout today. Jen got home around lunchtime, and he was on his bed looking a bit sorry for himself, but gradually perked up. Had his dinner around 4ish and was jumping up at the living room window to look oout (considering this morning he couldn't even do his doggy yoga stretches lol).

I finished work and met Jen at the police station, popped to the chippy and then back home. Jeff jumping up at us to greet us. Then took him a short walk around our street - he was loving it and even wanted to see other dogs. SO hopefully not had too much of an effect thank god
 
We let our 2 cats out in the yard supervised, but it's unfenced. And right behind my house is a park where sometimes people let their dogs run (illegally). Last summer we were out and our young cat Gabby was harnessed to a tether when a very large Pit Bull ran into the yard intent on eating her. I tried to stop that dog with everything I had, punching it in the nose and about the head, but it would not be dissuaded even though I apparently broke one of it's eardrums in the process. I finally had to choke the dog to get it under control and that wasn't easy either.

Cat got away pretty much unscathed somehow, I was a little worse off with busted open knuckles and other scrapes/cuts. Called the police and they *eventually* showed up. They tried to say the dog was now my problem since I had it under my control/in my possession. Nearly a year later and the wife is concerned/scared anytime she sees a large dog, especially a Pit even if it's on a leash. The cat's still skittish and easily scared at times. And I've still got scars that haven't gone away yet.

I don't know the answer... anyone who has ever had pets or kids knows they *will* eventually get out and do something you wish they hadn't.
 
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Glad to hear that Jeff is on the mend - there's probably some stiffness and bruising on top of the punctures that you can see which will take a while to heal, but hopefully (physically at least) he'll be back to normal soon.
Just keep an eye out for infection around the wound sites (I'm sure you are anyway)

My best wishes to Jen too. It's a bloody horrible experience.

Many years ago, my husband and I were walking our previous two dogs on leads when Ebony (the bitch) was the victim of a completely unprovoked attack by another dog being walked off lead.
The dog's owner simply had absolutely no control over her whatsoever and while the attack was happening he just stood there shouting and screaming for her to come back to him.
Fortunately she was wearing a collar so I had something to grab hold of to get her under control while Darren attended to Ebony - and even then the owner just stood there with a gormless expression on his face while I had Luke on the lead in my left hand and his dog held by her collar in my right. To say that I was furious with him is an understatement. Some of my language may not have been very ladylike.

Ebony ended up with multiple punctures to her ribs and the back of her neck which required a precautionary course of antibiotics and stitches to one of the deeper wounds, but she made a pretty fast recovery even if it took a while for her to regain confidence on her walks. I think it took me even longer before I fully relaxed when walking them. The sound of the attack was the worst thing to have to put out of my mind - hearing your pet screaming out in shock and distress is just harrowing.

Ironically, Ebony was a Staffie and Luke was a large Staffie-Cross (easily mistaken for a pit bull)
The dog that attacked Ebony was a large husky type breed.

Not that it really means anything, except that Ebony was very lucky.
Being a Staffie she had heavy muscalature around the areas where she was attacked, so although awful the injuries weren't life threatening.
The attack could well have proved fatal to a smaller breed.
 
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Our JRT was attacked 8 months ago by a greyhound, she didn't stand a chance to be fair.

14 staples due to the puncture wounds.

We reported to the Police and they advised we could prosecute but there was a risk the owners Dog could be put down if we did, we had little other choice than to say no.

The police invited me round to meet the owner at his house to 'discuss it', I basically just gave it to him without swearing or shouting. His Dog was a rescue with a bad past and he was told the Dog needed a muzzle when outdoors, yet it was off lead and no muzzle on so entirely the owners fault.

Physically ours recovered but she now has extreme fear aggression and we have spent hundreds on a behavioral specialist to try and help her stop barking aggressively at other dogs but the specialist thinks she may never get back to normal psychologically.

At the end of the day, its your job to ensure your Dog is in control at all times.
If the Dog is repeatedly getting out of the house then clearly its not in control and you are responsible.
 
Glad to hear that Jeff is recovering, Mat. How do you manage to control yourself and not say, in response to, "we don't know how she keeps getting out", "Its because you leave the door open you stupid idiot".


noneforit said:
We reported to the Police and they advised we could prosecute but there was a risk the owners Dog could be put down if we did, we had little other choice than to say no.
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I can understand you saying no, Noneforit. It is definitely not the fault of the dog.

Our crossed fell terrier (we think somewhere in his ancestry there was a sight hound - his legs are too long for his size and he has a lot of lurcherish characteristics) is never off the extender lead. He is not big (about 10kg) but for him anything non-dog up to the size of a fox is to be chased and to be honest I'm not too sure what he would make of very small breeds of dog and I can see a chase ending in the death or injury of him or the other animal.

Perhaps in the circumstances you've related a prosecution should result in the removal of the dog from the owners.

Dave
 
Really pleased to hear Jeff is doing ok (y)

Do you have a dog warden in your area, check the local council site, might be worth contacting them if you do,
they would possibly go and have a word with the owner
 
So sorry to hear of Jeff's experience, but delighted to hear he's on the mend and not having any fears shown at the moment.
Doubly distressing as we have a BedlingtonX Murphy, they are such gentle dogs.
Hope the Staffie owners get their just desserts
 
Broad statement.

No such thing as bad dog(s)......but bad owners with no concept that their dog needs training!

Having said that, those staffie owners are so b***dy irresponsible :(

Granted unlikely the staffie will attack a person but what would happen if it attacked an assistance dog.

Wasn't there a case a while back where that happened and the attacking dogs owners were prosecuted?
 
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Just got in from walking Jeff... (he's fine)

On our walks we met another Beddie (one we know and used to live around the corner)... Long story short, I mentioned how her dog (not mentioning names) wasn't barking at Jeff like he usually does. Anyway, turns out he'd been attacked 10-12 weeks ago and almost died. The dog who got him missed his jugular by less than an inch!

Guess what, it was the same f**king dog that attacked Jeff.... I asked if she reported it and said no. I told her to get it done ASAP as she has had one warning already!

Honestly not impressed. But at the same time, I'm not surprised. As with anything animal related, how are these things supposed to be policed?
 
That needs to be reported and also you should call and follow up your complaint that you know of another dog thats been attacked.
 
Will they pay attention to me? I'll give them a call later... I popped by on my way to town, and again back home, no signs of a dog and all gates wide open (all on video camera). Not that leaving gates open is a crime, but if they still have a dog, they don't have a secure garden.
 
RandomlySet said:
Just got in from walking Jeff... (he's fine)

On our walks we met another Beddie (one we know and used to live around the corner)... Long story short, I mentioned how her dog (not mentioning names) wasn't barking at Jeff like he usually does. Anyway, turns out he'd been attacked 10-12 weeks ago and almost died. The dog who got him missed his jugular by less than an inch!

Guess what, it was the same f**king dog that attacked Jeff.... I asked if she reported it and said no. I told her to get it done ASAP as she has had one warning already!

Honestly not impressed. But at the same time, I'm not surprised. As with anything animal related, how are these things supposed to be policed?
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I have met a number of people who have had their dogs attacked and did nothing about it. I cannot think of a reason to excuse such an attitude. Laziness/stupidity/no confidence in the police to do anything worthwhile etc.
In your shoes, Mat, , I would take the matter up with the police.

I never make do with verbal reports to the police on any matter. I always follow up with a letter in writing to the officer in charge at the police station etc., making it clear that I will not simply let matters drift on. If that does not bring a satisfactory response then make it clear in writing that the next step is a complaint with publicity. That puts the police on the spot.

Once the police get a written complain about dog aggression and they are left in no doubt that should an attack on a person occur that complaint will be put in the hands on the press they will know that they had better GAFMO and be seen to have taken action .
 
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TBH, when I went by earlier I had the GoPros set up. 1) as evidence for police and 2) publicly shame her/the police on YouTube should I need to
 
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TBH, when I went by earlier I had the GoPros set up. 1) as evidence for police and 2) publicly shame her/the police on YouTube should I need to
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Be interested to hear how this develops. Does the aggressive staffie reside near to you ?
 
This could have happend to a child, or yourself trying to save Jeff.
101is useless i think o would have to go to the police station and make a formal complaint.

Glad Jeff is on the mend

Colin
 
Colin39 said:
This could have happend to a child, or yourself trying to save Jeff.
101is useless i think o would have to go to the police station and make a formal complaint.

Glad Jeff is on the mend

Colin
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101 should get you a similar response to 999, just not with the same urgency or timescale. A caller should get an appointment made to see or be visited by a police officer (within a few days at most) if an offence is alleged.
 
One of my neighbours was walking his dog just over a week ago when it was attacked by a loose Rottweiler. He tried to protect his dog and received very serious bites to his hand, almost severing one finger - surgery and a few days in hospital, now back home.
He's pretty sure who ownes the Rottweiler but can't prove it, and in any event, going on past history, there's no point in reporting this type of problem to the local police.
 
If ever in this situation drop your coat/jacket/baby blanket etc over the aggressive dog. Put it in the dark, this should confuse the dog and it will most likely ‘let go’ it will also allow you to handle the dog safely. It worked for me.
 
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