A little help on editing and exporting please.

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hey all
Just a couple of questions that have been playing on my mind for a while now about what the best way is to export your photos after editing in lightroom etc.
Im still a beginner at editing and still only know the basics so this is how I export after editing in LR -
file > export > then I put the quality on 100 and save it as a jpeg into my pics folder on my laptop and the edited raw is stored in lightroom. Does everyone else do it like this ?
Is there a way to edit it then save as a jpeg as above but have the original raw stored in lightroom rather than the edited raw ?
Also under "file" in lightroom what does "export with previous", "export with preset" and "export with catalogue" mean ?

Thanks alot in advance
Joe
 
joeteds said:
hey all
Just a couple of questions that have been playing on my mind for a while now about what the best way is to export your photos after editing in lightroom etc.
Im still a beginner at editing and still only know the basics so this is how I export after editing in LR -
file > export > then I put the quality on 100 and save it as a jpeg into my pics folder on my laptop and the edited raw is stored in lightroom. Does everyone else do it like this ?
Is there a way to edit it then save as a jpeg as above but have the original raw stored in lightroom rather than the edited raw ?
Also under "file" in lightroom what does "export with previous", "export with preset" and "export with catalogue" mean ?

Thanks alot in advance
Joe
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Only had LR for 8 days (since the half price offer :D) so a bit of a beginner but I do similar to what you do. You can reduce the export jpeg file size by reducing to 90/80/70% (I think there are 12 quality levels with LR but I have forgotten what % range each one uses so check this link).

LR does not "edit" the raw, it just saves the edits to a catalogue file. This makes backing up your edits very easy and quick.

You can save all your favourite export settings or you can use "export with previous" if you simply want to use the same setting as your previous export.
 
The original raw file isn't edited, it stays the same regardless of what you do to it. How? When you 'edit' the raw file what actually happens is a list of your changes are kept in a separate file with the raw data, and this list is what is used to make the jpeg. You can make as many changes as you like without ever touching the original raw, and you can get back to the original non modified state by clicking on the Reset button.
 
Joe

I'll try and help but understand that with any Adobe product there's more than one way to skin a cat (so to speak) so other's views may differ: -

When I export as jpegs I use two basic setups (both of which I have saved as user presets)

Print Format (high quality for actual printing up to A4)
Quality - 80
Color Space - sRGB (most commercial printers use this - professional printers may differ)
Resize to fit - Long Edge 10.00 in 300 pixels per inch
Sharpen for: Glossy paper Amount: Standard

Web Format (quality & file size suitable for Facebook or similar)
Quality - 60
Color Space - sRGB
Resize to fit - Long Edge 640 pixels 72 pixels per inch
Sharpen for: Screen Amount: Standard

To answer your specific points:

export with previous - exports using the same settings you used the last time you exported a file (as already noted by Adrian)
export with preset - allows you choose a preset, either a standard Lightroom preset or one you created yourself
export with (as) catalogue - exports a catalogue file, with/without image file, so that you can import it into another Lightroom catalogue (for example)

Hope this helps.

Andy
 
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andybeach said:
Joe

I'll try and help but understand that with any Adobe product there's more than one way to skin a cat (so to speak) so other's views may differ: -

When I export as jpegs I use two basic setups (both of which I have saved as user presets)

Print Format (high quality for actual printing up to A4)
Quality - 80
Color Space - sRGB (most commercial printers use this - professional printers may differ)
Resize to fit - Long Edge 10.00 in 300 pixels per inch
Sharpen for: Glossy paper Amount: Standard

Web Format (quality & file size suitable for Facebook or similar)
Quality - 60
Color Space - sRGB
Resize to fit - Long Edge 640 pixels 72 pixels per inch
Sharpen for: Screen Amount: Standard

To answer your specific points:

export with previous - exports using the same settings you used the last time you exported a file (as already noted by Adrian)
export with preset - allows you choose a preset, either a standard Lightroom preset or one you created yourself
export with (as) catalogue - exports a catalogue file, with/without image file, so that you can import it into another Lightroom catalogue (for example)

Hope this helps.

Andy
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Hello Andy thanks alot for this its very helpful.1 question though, For the print format high quality images why would you have quality 80 and not 100 ?
 
Hi Joe, I noticed that you use Flickr, as I do. There's a plugin made by Jeffrey Friedl which exports as JPEG and uploads to Flickr in one go. It can also allocate the photos to a set, replace previously-uploaded photos, tweet about the upload, and lots and lots more features. I use it all the time and find it a real time-saver.

http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/flickr
 
Joe

I'll try and help but understand that with any Adobe product there's more than one way to skin a cat (so to speak) so other's views may differ: -

When I export as jpegs I use two basic setups (both of which I have saved as user presets)

Print Format (high quality for actual printing up to A4)
Quality - 80
Color Space - sRGB (most commercial printers use this - professional printers may differ)
Resize to fit - Long Edge 10.00 in 300 pixels per inch
Sharpen for: Glossy paper Amount: Standard

Web Format (quality & file size suitable for Facebook or similar)
Quality - 60
Color Space - sRGB
Resize to fit - Long Edge 640 pixels 72 pixels per inch
Sharpen for: Screen Amount: Standard

To answer your specific points:

export with previous - exports using the same settings you used the last time you exported a file (as already noted by Adrian)
export with preset - allows you choose a preset, either a standard Lightroom preset or one you created yourself
export with (as) catalogue - exports a catalogue file, with/without image file, so that you can import it into another Lightroom catalogue (for example)
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This is extremely helpful, thanks.

Can you not export your files as DNG and still maintain the changes and full editing options when opened in lightroom again, or have I got the wrong end of the stick with that?
 
andybeach said:
Joe

I'll try and help but understand that with any Adobe product there's more than one way to skin a cat (so to speak) so other's views may differ: -

When I export as jpegs I use two basic setups (both of which I have saved as user presets)

Print Format (high quality for actual printing up to A4)
Quality - 80
Color Space - sRGB (most commercial printers use this - professional printers may differ)
Resize to fit - Long Edge 10.00 in 300 pixels per inch
Sharpen for: Glossy paper Amount: Standard

Web Format (quality & file size suitable for Facebook or similar)
Quality - 60
Color Space - sRGB
Resize to fit - Long Edge 640 pixels 72 pixels per inch
Sharpen for: Screen Amount: Standard

To answer your specific points:

export with previous - exports using the same settings you used the last time you exported a file (as already noted by Adrian)
export with preset - allows you choose a preset, either a standard Lightroom preset or one you created yourself
export with (as) catalogue - exports a catalogue file, with/without image file, so that you can import it into another Lightroom catalogue (for example)

Hope this helps.

Andy
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For info Andy the ppi value of your web images is irrelevant, Once you set a set pixel dimansion the ppi value is useless info. A 640 pixel image at 300ppi is the exact same image as a 640pixel image at 72ppi.

Your 10in @ 300ppi sets the pixel dimension to 3000 pixels.
 
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