570,000 shutter count too high?

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I've spotted a Nikon D700 at a reasonable price, but the shutter count is 570,000.
Does anyone think this is too high to take a chance on?
It comes with a warranty from the dealer, but I'm a bit unsure because of the shutter count.

Cheers.
 
That seems like a heck of a lot to me. Even with a cast iron, pay for every thing, written in blood warranty, WHEN will it fail? Just as your covering a never to be repeatble evvent? Plenty more arond with much lower counts. I'd avoid it.
 
What is the warranty period?
How many activations do you expect to make?
Is "a reasonable price" reasonable if it needs a new shutter?
Shutters can go quickly or last way beyond its current count. :)
 
I very much doubt the warranty covers the shutter...
 
Looking at all your comments, I'll give this one a miss then.
There's another one at twice the price, but in better condition with 43,000 on the clock.
There's no rush at the moment anyway. I'm stuck at home with a broken ankle, and looking to scratch my full frame itch for when I can get out and about again.
Thanks for all the replies, you've been very helpful.

Cheers.
 
The nominal MTBF shutter is 150,000 though reports suggest there are examples of well in excess of the figure you posted

Personally I would never touch it!
 
If it's got a year's warranty and that covers the shutter, it sounds like a cheap way to scratch the itch! Just over 37p/day.
 
Nod said:
If it's got a year's warranty and that covers the shutter, it sounds like a cheap way to scratch the itch! Just over 37p/day.
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Likely what would happen if the shutter failed they'll refund rather than repair. Still worth it I think
 
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It depends upon the rest of the condition.

The D700 has a tested shutter life of 150000 while the D3 is 300000. Some people think they have the same shutter, which would make sense from a production point of view. Nikon may have just halved the claimed D700 life so the pros bought the D3. (If anyone who repairs them knows, it would be interesting to get their views)

If you have a look here at the D700 and D3 shutter life the D700 looks better:

Camera Shutter Life Database

olegkikin.com

This would make sense if the shutters were the same as pros are much more likely to abuse their kit (and the D3 does more frames per second).

If I read the D700 data right, the 50% survival point is about a million clicks. If you do 5000 clicks a year for 10 years then the chances of the shutter failing between 570000 and 620000 is about 5%. I'd buy that if it was in decent condition. Then use it a lot for a few months and see If it is okay.

If it looks like it has had a hard life then the chances of failing would be higher, so I'd leave it.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Likely what would happen if the shutter failed they'll refund rather than repair. Still worth it I think
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Exactly! The 37p/day is pretty much a worst case scenario (as long as the camera isn't NEEDED.)
 
Thats a LOT, probably over the average number suggested for the life of the shutter. There is however the possibility it's already been replaced.
Personally I'd run away though.
 
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garry71 said:
I've spotted a Nikon D700 at a reasonable price, but the shutter count is 570,000.
Does anyone think this is too high to take a chance on?
It comes with a warranty from the dealer, but I'm a bit unsure because of the shutter count.

Cheers.
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Even if you factor in the cost of a new shutter, the rest of the camera has had an equally hard life.
Not something I would want even as a gift.
 
Read a few more posts, and decided it's cheap enough to take a chance on.
Some spares or repair listings on ebay are up for not much less, so I won't lose out too much if it gives up the ghost.
Ordered a 50mm 1.8 AFD lens for it, which my missus can use as well on her 810e.
I'll let you know how I get along with it in the future.

Thanks for the replies again.
Cheers.
 
I'd take a punt on it too, not exactly megabucks (y)

GC
 
Do you know if it's had a shutter replacement, or is that the actual shutter count of the current shutter?
 
Bear this in mind. A friend of mine had a Nikon D500 that was incredibly sharp, with no other owned units coming anywhere near. However, as the shutter count had arrived at the recommended lifetime, he decided to return it to Nikon for a shutter replacement even though there was no issue. Unbeknown to him, the shutter and sensor came as one unit. After this service took place, a once amazing camera was no more.
 
dcash29 said:
Bear this in mind. A friend of mine had a Nikon D500 that was incredibly sharp, with no other owned units coming anywhere near. However, as the shutter count had arrived at the recommended lifetime, he decided to return it to Nikon for a shutter replacement even though there was no issue. Unbeknown to him, the shutter and sensor came as one unit. After this service took place, a once amazing camera was no more.
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Sounds odd, I’ve not seen a sensor cause a great variation in the sharpness of an image :oops: :$
 
garry71 said:
I dont know, I'm guessing it's the original shutter.
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Could be worth asking, you might be lucky and find out the shutter’s not that old.
 
dcash29 said:
We've also seen it with two A7iii models, so it does exist.
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Wow, must be something to do with the microlenses or cover glass on the sensor then I'd guess :eek:
 
Well, there’s also the sensor to mount distance and flatness. They’re never going to be perfectly aligned, though there will be a tolerance, so some cameras eg shim them level.
 
garry71 said:
Read a few more posts, and decided it's cheap enough to take a chance on.
Some spares or repair listings on ebay are up for not much less, so I won't lose out too much if it gives up the ghost.
Ordered a 50mm 1.8 AFD lens for it, which my missus can use as well on her 810e.
I'll let you know how I get along with it in the future.

Thanks for the replies again.
Cheers.
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Enjoy it!
 
It arrived yesterday. You can see it isn't quite mint, but it's better than the description made out. It's nothing you'd be embarrassed to be seen with.
Gave the mirror a clean, and the ground screen above it. The actual shutter count after I'd had a play with for a day it is 567964.
Can't wait to get out with it when my leg's mended.
Cheers.
 
garry71 said:
It arrived yesterday. You can see it isn't quite mint, but it's better than the description made out. It's nothing you'd be embarrassed to be seen with.
Gave the mirror a clean, and the ground screen above it. The actual shutter count after I'd had a play with for a day it is 567964.
Can't wait to get out with it when my leg's mended.
Cheers.
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So what you are saying is that the camera is in better nick than you? :LOL:

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Cool. Does it have the additional picture controls- Landscape, Portrait and D2X Modes 1-3?
 
Erty said:
Cool. Does it have the additional picture controls- Landscape, Portrait and D2X Modes 1-3?
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I think it's just got the usual standard, neutral, vivd and monochrome. I might have a try at downloading kodachrome64 settings from the nikonpc website.
 
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