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Hi all, I am currently looking at moving from a Windows based system to a new iMac. Has anyone recently made the move or are there any reasons I may have failed to see that would suggest that its a stupid thing to do.
The system will be used for all photography related tasks and a bit of video.

Thanks in advance
 
Hi all, I am currently looking at moving from a Windows based system to a new iMac. Has anyone recently made the move or are there any reasons I may have failed to see that would suggest that its a stupid thing to do.
The system will be used for all photography related tasks and a bit of video.

Thanks in advance

Have you ever used iOS I'm lead to believe it will take some getting used too...have you not considered a high spec windows based system, okay athletically it may not be as pleasing, but it may save you money :D

Either way you go, get a decent processor and lots of RAM :D
 
You'll get a better response in the Computrs section.

Fundamentally, no reason not to, as they are all PCs under the hood. I personally dislike OSX, others love it... but the fundamental requirement is lots of RAM (if doing video/Photoshop - it is less important for Lightroom) and a fast processor. I'd be looking at i5-4xxx or possibly i7-4xxx as the processor with 16G of RAM.

You will probably get more bang for your buck out of spending the same amount on a decent Windows system. A tower based PC is also easier to upgrade (I need more disk space/want to add an SSD etc...)
 
Have you ever used iOS I'm lead to believe it will take some getting used too...have you not considered a high spec windows based system, okay athletically it may not be as pleasing, but it may save you money :D

Either way you go, get a decent processor and lots of RAM :D
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A friend went over to the 27" iMac about a year ago. It took him ages to get used to the different system.
He does like it now, though not really sure he'd have done it given hindsight. (bang for your bucks?)

I like the smooth look/aesthetics of the iMac, but I find the screen a bit too `glossy`
 
Have you ever used iOS I'm lead to believe it will take some getting used too...

iOS != OS X

Choose wisely when you buy a 27" iMac. The disk you buy it with can never (easily) be upgraded or replaced. When it dies, basically your Mac dies with it. That's what worries me most about the one sitting on my desk.

Plus, the designer was having an off day when he thought about where to put the sockets.

Other than that, it's pretty nice.
 
iOS != OS X

Choose wisely when you buy a 27" iMac. The disk you buy it with can never (easily) be upgraded or replaced. When it dies, basically your Mac dies with it. That's what worries me most about the one sitting on my desk.

Yep - thats going to be an expensive drive when it goes...........
 
ive just sold my 27 after years of only using apple and bought the dell pictured above

windows 8 is very good not quite a intuitive as osx but the the newer versions of osx have been progressively worse imo

getting a pain for compatibility with non apple OS eg a windows server transferring files between windows and osx

the dell above was half the price more powerful and I figured the kneeling touch screen would be handy for photoshop when I get round to learning it
 
iOS != OS X

Choose wisely when you buy a 27" iMac. The disk you buy it with can never (easily) be upgraded or replaced. When it dies, basically your Mac dies with it. That's what worries me most about the one sitting on my desk.

Plus, the designer was having an off day when he thought about where to put the sockets.

Other than that, it's pretty nice.

Surely the disk can be replaced by an authorised 3rd party of even apple?
 
Surely the disk can be replaced by an authorised 3rd party of even apple?

they now use non standard disks so rather than £50 for a 2tb youll probably pay £250 or something equally silly for an apple disk
 
Surely the disk can be replaced by an authorised 3rd party of even apple?

Not really.

The disk has customised firmware on it. Nobody apart from Apple (or their authorised repairers) can source these. I believe the policy is that they will replace like for like but no upgrades. So if you think half a TB is pretty useful now but in 3 years you want an 8 TB SSD, well, too bad. And Apple aren't known for their cut price repairs.

Of course, you (or an unauthorised repairer) could just void your warranty and stuff a regular drive in but without the firmware (which feeds back temperature to the OS) the fans will run on full all the time. And Mac fans can be pretty loud when they want to be.

3rd parties are working on a fix.

Srsly, buy Apple Care on a new iMac. Always.
 
they now use non standard disks so rather than £50 for a 2tb youll probably pay £250 or something equally silly for an apple disk

Don't be ridiculous.

A 768GB drive is a bargain at £720. :lol:

And that's only if you buy it WITH the computer. It can't be added later at any price.
 
I must say having made the leap to a mac I'm mightily impressed. PC's just clog up in no time at all. The mac just has much more available processing power per ram it does what you want when you want it.

I got the Mac mini for now and will upgrade the monitor next year, with 16 gb of ram it's in a different league to my quad core pc. I do love being able to split screens too which is just so much more intuitive. One downside can be slight software and compatibility issues but the pros far outweighs the negatives. Getting used to the layout really isn't that difficult either.
 
I went from Microsoft windows to Mac OSX a few years ago, haven't looked back since.
Apple just works and my MacBook Pro i5 2.4Ghz with 8GB RAM is more than enough for photo editing, I'm not quite sure why people say you need 16GB.
I would definitely recommend a SSD drive though as it really does make a massive difference.

Dell and other PC's are cheaper for a reason ;)

Riz :)
 
I have looked at the option of building myself a high spec desktop but I like the aesthetics of the iMac however some valid points have been made about simple things like replacing HDD's an the like. Need to do some more thinking on this I guess.
 
I made the switch a year ago. OSX does take some time to get used to, but before long you will wonder how you ever put up with windows for so long! It is a very intuitive OS, and much more stable. No viruses, no clogging up, no slowing down etc etc.

My MacBook Pro is as quick and powerful today as the day I bought it. It has never been shutdown, and only gets restarted for some software updates, other than that it just goes to sleep and wakes up instantly. When I had a PC (admittedly not a top spec one), if I didnt shut it down every day, it would be so slow!
 
Apple just works and my MacBook Pro i5 2.4Ghz with 8GB RAM is more than enough for photo editing, I'm not quite sure why people say you need 16GB.
Because if you drop into photoshop, layers can use a lot of memory quickly. If all you do is Lightroom, 8G will be plenty, but the OP wants to also do video processing which can be another RAM eater...

Dell and other PC's are cheaper for a reason ;)
Yes, they don't have a large overhead in "Dell stores" nor do they have to pay Geniuses, Specialists or Creatives to sell and support the devices. And they don't advertise as heavily....

I have looked at the option of building myself a high spec desktop but I like the aesthetics of the iMac however some valid points have been made about simple things like replacing HDD's an the like. Need to do some more thinking on this I guess.
If you are capable of building your own, you will get a much better deal doing it that way... An iMac will only win out over a homebuilt if you really want to run OSX (but then you could do something about that...) or you want the Apple aesthetic...

My MacBook Pro is as quick and powerful today as the day I bought it. It has never been shutdown, and only gets restarted for some software updates, other than that it just goes to sleep and wakes up instantly.
Yup... same with all the 4 PCs here ;)

When I had a PC (admittedly not a top spec one), if I didnt shut it down every day, it would be so slow!
I've highlighted the important bit. It is easy to buy an underspec'd PC - you can't really buy an underspec'd Mac from new. It's possible to buy a PC now that would be crippled by running several things at the same time and would slow to a halt doing image processing. Restarting it would cure the problem. Please don't tar ALL PCs with your experience of a lower spec PC vs a high spec Mac.
 
Hi,

Have Ho Hesitation in Recommending the 27" iMac for Video, Music, and Photographs.

On my Second but without the DVD/CD drive.

Also have Ultrabook running Windows 7 and a 17” Sony Vaio running XP which is about the closest thing to a Mac I can think of in Style and Screen quality.

Decided to Seperate, keep the Mac Soley for what I think it does Better and keep the Pcs for the Mundane stuff.

Regards.
 
I would definitely try a windows 8 based system its much faster and intuitive than windows 7

most of its cribbed from osx :)

I still use my MacBook and they are a joy to use but I have a windows server and windows at work and it can be a pain

my dell from the outlet cost about half the cost of an imac so I got a shiny new pc and a new camera :)

dell has 27" touch screen so when kneeling its like a giant tablet
 
Mac vs PC is like Canon vs Nikon...

Personally I am an apple whore , I just buy into the iPhone mac iPad thing as it makes my life easier. But that's just my choice.

iMacs are great computers in he same way BMW make smooth cars. Ford make great cars too that will get you there in the same time with more choice that will be cheaper - but apple stuff is like shopping at John Lewis or waitrose - it just feels better and more fun and you spend less time firefighting.....
 
If we're using car analogies then Macs are BMW and PC's are Alfa Romeo.

The Alfa tries hard to look good but ultimately you just want a BMW more...if only you could afford it.

Plus you just know with an Alfa you'll be fixing it yourself at some point.
 
I can't comment on what a move from Windows to OSX will be like, as the last Windows machine I used was about 10 years ago so it would be unfair to compare.

However, as a machine for what you want it's perfect; I probably do a 50/50 split between photo and video these days. The iMac was the only option for me really because I've grown up using macs and feel very comfortable with moving between my works iMac and my MBP at home. It makes sense in that situation.

As a photo-editing machine it's the best I've ever used. Can't remember the spec off the top of my head but it has the 1TB fusion drive, 32GB of RAM, the 1GB NVIDIA graphics option and the 3.2ghz processor.... it's rapid, really rapid. I do a lot of batch exports and can't believe how quickly this thing pumps out hi-res .PSD files. The screen is brilliant and it's just a brilliant machine. It cost an arm and a leg - about £2500 I believe - but IMO it's worth it.

What JonathanRyan says about the ports is kind of correct; I don't mind the USB port layout but the SD card slot is a pain because it's so close to the audio jack for headphones (which are in my machine permanently). I can live with it.

The lack of an optical drive is a pain - I need to buy a Superdrive because drive sharing does my nut in - although I don't think the Apple drives are that expensive, probably £70 or so.

For video it's way ahead of anything I've used before, be it a maxxed out MBP or two-year-old Mac Pro. FCP X isn't the most well-liked piece of software around but it runs very smooth on this machne. Where the other video machines I've used struggled was in loading up projects and events, plus applying complex sets of effects and transitions. The iMac NEVER falters. The screen size also helps when working in Motion and After Effects when I'm doing a lot of keyframe work where you need to have a lot of information readily available and easy-to-see.

Is it user-upgradeable? I don't know TBH, but judging on past experience of servicing and upgrading macs, they may have a few more bit and pieces in a tighter space but in general, macs have always been pretty easy to work on.

I suppose that if you use crossover software like PS, LR, AE then the interface of the software differs very little regardless of operating system. It's when you figure in using Apple's own, OSX-only software that it's either a help or a hindrance.

Are the iMacs worth the money? Many people would say "no" and I can understand why - it's a lot of money to blow on a machine that in terms of on-paper specification, probably matches something in PC terms that is a lot less money. I love Apple kit, I always have and always will, so I don't mind paying the premium myself (or making my work pay in this case) because as a whole, it makes me work well and makes me work happily.

With macs I know that I'm getting a machine that's been designed by people who understand the tasks it'll be used for and therefore they're built to a (high) minimum spec. I've never been totally convinced that anything but the top-spec PCs have been designed along the same lines...
 
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IMO the OS is largely irrelevant (although I love the multi touch on the MBP I have)

I use Windows 7 and OSX at the same time, and TBH even when I first got my MBP on a whim having never even tried one out I picked OSX up straight away. My MBP is the best laptop I've ever used and right now I don't think I'd ever buy a non-Mac notebook.

I like building my PCs, I have a little OCD when it comes to easily accessible USB ports and being able to fit a tonne of HDD drives in my system. I also think the whole point of a PC to have what you want in it, I hate overpriced prebuilt systems in crap cases with crap components, so I'd never buy one I'd always build my own.

I've often thought about getting an iMac with their super clean lines, but I don't think the tweaker in me would allow me to get a desktop I couldn't muck about with upgrading and adding to. I think the iMac would be a good choice if you're a "tidy freak" though.
 
iOS != OS X

Choose wisely when you buy a 27" iMac. The disk you buy it with can never (easily) be upgraded or replaced. When it dies, basically your Mac dies with it. That's what worries me most about the one sitting on my desk.

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Yep - thats going to be an expensive drive when it goes...........


Apple replaced the hard drive in my 2009 27" iMac early this year free of charge, took it in one day picked it up the next. They were changing a huge batch of seagate drive as a few had failed, my dads 2011 21" also went in. May be. Bit more difficult on the very latest machine but certainly nothing I'd worry about.

I believe too many of us that have had computes for years and years still have the mind set that its something you fiddle with, upgrading drives and processors, when in today's world it's just another consumer product like a tv, you just don't upgrade the motor in your washing machine.
 
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I use several pcs for my work, I bought an imac27 for my photography and love it, (not interested in getting into a PC / mac war). I have recently been in touch with an approved Apple workshop near Oxford, no problem with changing or upgrading parts. When I get the time they are going to add another16 meg of ram, put me in a new Apple 2 tb hard drive, put everything of my original hard drive onto the new one for not an outrageous price.
 
Ah so the possibility of repair/upgrading HDD's is there then.

Having built pc's myself for years and tinkering with them constantly I quite like the idea of having something that just "works".
 
OSX = goodbye defrag and windows bloat
 
OSX = goodbye defrag and windows bloat
Defrag has not been needed for many years. Bloat = PICNIC. Don't blindly install everything. OSX = problems with non-Apple compatibility ;)
 
Replaced the HD in my 2011 iMac a couple of months ago. It's not difficult at all bit it's true that if you use a standard disk rather than one designed for apple then the connector will differ slightly. It works fine but the cable that monitors HD temperature cannot be reconnected. When you first turn the computer back on, you'll get the fans going full blast. The work around is to install a software based fan controller. I forget the name of the one I used but its either free or costs almost nothing. Fans now behave normally.

I changed the ram too. Total cost for an upgrade to 2tb hard disk and 16gb ram was barely more than £100 and an hour's work.
 
Replaced the HD in my 2011 iMac a couple of months ago. It's not difficult at all bit it's true that if you use a standard disk rather than one designed for apple then the connector will differ slightly. It works fine but the cable that monitors HD temperature cannot be reconnected. When you first turn the computer back on, you'll get the fans going full blast. The work around is to install a software based fan controller. I forget the name of the one I used but its either free or costs almost nothing. Fans now behave normally.

I changed the ram too. Total cost for an upgrade to 2tb hard disk and 16gb ram was barely more than £100 and an hour's work.

That's good to know. I believe they tinkered with things to make this harder on the late 2012 revision though :(

For one thing the screen is now glued on instead of using magnets. So, first step is a heat gun :gag:

http://9to5mac.com/2012/12/01/ifixi...ual-mics-difficult-ram-upgrades-glued-on-lcd/

(That's the 21.5 - the 27 is likely to be even harder since I believe RAM is user upgradeable on the 21.5 but not the 27.)

But yeah, 3rd parties should be able to work it out.
 
Hi all, I am currently looking at moving from a Windows based system to a new iMac. Has anyone recently made the move or are there any reasons I may have failed to see that would suggest that its a stupid thing to do.
The system will be used for all photography related tasks and a bit of video.

Thanks in advance

i use a imac 27inch at work and it is a joy for proffesional use.

Lovely screen, very stable OS and very fast and snappy.

This is coming from a windows fanboy since windows 3.1

For pro use i will go with OSX and for Gaming/media i would go for Windows
 
I was led to believe that there was access on the back of the 27 to upgrade RAM but not on the 21.5? I am probably wrong though :-o
 
The new 27 imac does have 4 accessible ram slots.

I've just upgraded mine from 8gb to 24gb for just over £100 from crucial plus 5 minutes of my time.
 
just to put my tupenth worth in, I moved from pc's to mac in may I have had a pro career as a coder so I know my way around a pc better than most, and have done for the past 30 years.

from a coding pov the mac is still the worst pile of crap I have ever had the misfortune to be contracted to code for.

from a file organising pov its just different from the pc. neither better nor worse. they both organise, job done.

from an image editing pov, the imac blows the pc so far out of the water that you need to be looking in another galaxy for it.

controlling the mac, its weird at first, but(thankfully!) intuitive. Stick with it and you'll be surprised just how quickly you'll start thinking like a mac user

don't think just get one you wont regret it!
 
just to put my tupenth worth in, I moved from pc's to mac in may I have had a pro career as a coder so I know my way around a pc better than most, and have done for the past 30 years.

from a coding pov the mac is still the worst pile of crap I have ever had the misfortune to be contracted to code for.

from a file organising pov its just different from the pc. neither better nor worse. they both organise, job done.

from an image editing pov, the imac blows the pc so far out of the water that you need to be looking in another galaxy for it.

controlling the mac, its weird at first, but(thankfully!) intuitive. Stick with it and you'll be surprised just how quickly you'll start thinking like a mac user

don't think just get one you wont regret it!

Im a coder as well and find the macs better for coding
 
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