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Just looking for lenses as I’m sure we all do, and I was pretty irked to see my EF 85 1.2 ii is only worth £500 now, to swap to the RF version would cost me an extra £1500, for a slight improvement. But then I realised all the lenses I wanted that were out of my price range 10 years ago must’ve dropped too… so the EF 11-24 can be had for less than £1000. The lens I always wanted was the EF 200-400 that was around £10,000, now only £3500-£4000. The 400 DO around £3000ish as well. All the big whites of old are attainable now, then I saw the RF 100-300 so maybe in 10 years I can afford that haha.

I don’t know if other manufacturers have gone through the same but I’m only guessing it’s because of the lens mount changing, I was out of the loop whilst the switch was happening.
 
Boots said:
Flipping this on it's head - all the lenses you have always lusted after are on sale. They are just as good as they always were.
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100% but I only realised the last couple of days, so starting to look seriously at adding a big white to my collection, most likely the 200-400
 
It's a similar story with F-mount with some great lenses being available for much less and they can work even better on Z-mount bodies.
 
EF mount lenses should adapt well if you have a Canon mirrorless.
 
ancient_mariner said:
EF mount lenses should adapt well if you have a Canon mirrorless.
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I rented an R3 (for free from Canon) to second shoot for someone who was using a pair of R6. Adapted my EF 50 f/1.2 to it and it never missed. All day. Every shot. Same could never be said about that lens on a DSLR but I learned to work around it's quirks. But on the R body it was amazing.

Still didn't buy an R. Utterly soulless thing that delivered every shot.
 
Downhill Specialist said:
I rented an R3 (for free from Canon) to second shoot for someone who was using a pair of R6. Adapted my EF 50 f/1.2 to it and it never missed. All day. Every shot. Same could never be said about that lens on a DSLR but I learned to work around it's quirks. But on the R body it was amazing.

Still didn't buy an R. Utterly soulless thing that delivered every shot.
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I'll never understand this attitude. To me a camera should be pretty much invisible. I just want it to get out of the way and let me take the pictures that I want to take with my vision, technique, the settings I choose and the lens I use providing the character and the look I want. For me the camera is just a tool, a stable and reliable platform box with the lens being more interesting and providing more character and more of a look than the body.

Wanting a camera which makes the picture taking process unreliable and reducing the number of keepers you get seems less like soul and more like masochism. With more reliable and consistent mirrorless cameras you could get the same soul by developing a twitch or poking yourself in the eye before you look through the VF. If you can't stop yourself from taking in focus pictures you could always try kicking your printer as it's printing or you could always just switch to manual focus at f1.2 and not use the focus aids. Each to their own though and there's room for all. It's just that I don't see the camera as being a component in the chain which I look to to add soul.
 
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woof woof said:
I'll never understand this attitude. To me a camera should be pretty much invisible. I just want it to get out of the way and let me take the pictures that I want to take with my vision, technique, the settings I choose and the lens I use providing the character and the look I want. For me the camera is just a tool, a stable and reliable platform box with the lens being more interesting and providing more character and more of a look than the body.

Wanting a camera which makes the picture taking process unreliable and reducing the number of keepers you get seems less like soul and more like masochism. With more reliable and consistent mirrorless cameras you could get the same soul by developing a twitch or poking yourself in the eye before you look through the VF. If you can't stop yourself from taking in focus pictures you could always try kicking your printer as it's printing or you could always just switch to manual focus at f1.2 and not use the focus aids. Each to their own though and there's room for all. It's just that I don't see the camera as being a component in the chain which I look to to add soul.
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As you say, each to their own. I agree with the first part about the camera needing to feel out of the way and the cameras I use help me do that. Not every one of my images are in sharp focus and I am not blazing away at 20fps. I understand the advantages of such cameras for certain events and appreciate them but I don't enjoy using them.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
It's a similar story with F-mount with some great lenses being available for much less and they can work even better on Z-mount bodies.
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Love my F 70-200 on my Z camera. Cannot see a reason why I should spend loads on a Z version, barring failure.
 
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