Olympus OM-D E-M5, E-M1, E-M10 - Mk1, Mk2 & Mk3 Owners Thread

A quick sanity check please, I was trying to sell my e-PL7 to wex, but after they refused my e-PL6 as it wasn't a model sold in the UK , I wanted to clarify before sending off this time. The response:
Regarding the e-PL6, it wasn't so much that the item was an import but moreso that it was a model sold only in Asia so it's not an item we trade-in. For your e-PL7, as long as it's the item as described above, and not the "lite" model, this will be absolutely fine
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Does the above make any sense regarding the e-PL range of cameras? My, and all e-PL7s i've seen in reviews, wex used listings and elsewhere say Pen Lite on the top, and the PL part signifies that. To be sure, they do list the e-PL7 model as an option to sell, though only in black.
 
benington said:
A quick sanity check please, I was trying to sell my e-PL7 to wex, but after they refused my e-PL6 as it wasn't a model sold in the UK , I wanted to clarify before sending off this time. The response:


Does the above make any sense regarding the e-PL range of cameras? My, and all e-PL7s i've seen in reviews, wex used listings and elsewhere say Pen Lite on the top, and the PL part signifies that. To be sure, they do list the e-PL7 model as an option to sell, though only in black.
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Ok, to their credit they got back in touch with me to clarify that it was a mistake on their part and some crossed wires between staff. The asia model issue only applied to the e-PL6 I had, not the e-PL7.
 
Stephen L said:
From my new "pocket" (almost) camera, the EM10 Mk IV. and 17mm f1.8 Mk 2

Barn and gate by Stephen Lee, on Flickr
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Lovely and not too dissimilar to my almost pocketable Om5.2 and 17 mm F1.8 II

I just wish the standard B&W was like the L monochrome D on the lumix
 
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Adamcski said:
Lovely and not too dissimilar to my almost pocketable Om5.2 and 17 mm F1.8 II

I just wish the standard B&W was like the L monochrome D on the lumix
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I always shoot raw, so this is simply a conversion in LR
 
I've just noticed that my OM-1 has what looks like part of a finger print on the sensor - no idea how that's happened as I'm pretty anal about exposed sensors?

In any case, has anyone actually ever tried cleaning a micro four thirds sensor, and is it easy or quite difficult due to the small sensor size ? Or, alternatively anyone ever had their OM-1 serviced by OMDS and has an idea how much it costs ? It's under warranty still until next year but I highly doubt sensor cleans are covered under warranty ?
 
Sootchucker said:
I've just noticed that my OM-1 has what looks like part of a finger print on the sensor - no idea how that's happened as I'm pretty anal about exposed sensors?

In any case, has anyone actually ever tried cleaning a micro four thirds sensor, and is it easy or quite difficult due to the small sensor size ? Or, alternatively anyone ever had their OM-1 serviced by OMDS and has an idea how much it costs ? It's under warranty still until next year but I highly doubt sensor cleans are covered under warranty ?
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Are you sure it’s dirt on the sensor as it could be what happened to mine. Some form of mark under the glass on the sensor. Also a lot of posts about this online


Do you notice it in images at say F16-F22 against a plain light wall.

My mark (detailed previously in this thread) didn’t show on any images. I thought, as did my mate that it was a mark on the sensor. Sent to wex to clean and they told me they tried to clean it but it wasn’t on the sensor, it was under the glass of the sensor and to send to OM for warranty repair.

I did just that and about two weeks later it came back with a clean looking sensor. OMs paperwork stated they had cleaned it but they obviously swapped it out as I had paid to have wex clean it and the manager showed it me in the shop.
 
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To be honest I'm not 100% sure. I've tried to photograph below as best I can. Now that I look at it a bit closer, it doesn't look like a fingerprint ?

Hopefully you can see the mark in the middle of the sensor running horizontally ?

 
Here's a better image where i've sharpened it. Looks like a smudge or something ?

 
Doesn't look like it to me either. If you Google OM1 sensor mark or similar you'll see various threads and images from people who have had issues.

If it were me, I'd be submitting for a warranty repair to be safe.

The mgr at WeX said to me, if it was a mark ON the sensor you would see it at F16-F22 against bright wall or sky. She stated "we have tested it thoroughly at lots of settings and cannot see it in any images" which was the same as my tests.

Try yours out.

I have two OM1 bodies. One I purchased from Jessops (for sale) which has absolutely no marks whatsoever and then the one I purchased later on (so it was newer to me) from Amazon that had the issue and is now fixed. I will be extending the warranty on the Amazon one (and the other one I'm selling if it doesn't sell).

Page 819 of this thread has my images and discussion on it.
 
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Sootchucker said:
I've just noticed that my OM-1 has what looks like part of a finger print on the sensor - no idea how that's happened as I'm pretty anal about exposed sensors?

In any case, has anyone actually ever tried cleaning a micro four thirds sensor, and is it easy or quite difficult due to the small sensor size ? Or, alternatively anyone ever had their OM-1 serviced by OMDS and has an idea how much it costs ? It's under warranty still until next year but I highly doubt sensor cleans are covered under warranty ?
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.... I had my sensor cleaned as part of a service by OMDS in Portugal on my OM-1 'mk1' under warranty. But I do have PRO Service status with them so I don't know if that makes any difference.

As you are still under warranty ask OMDS directly rather than retailers like Wex or Amazon.
 
Yes Robin, I have warranty on the OM-1 until 15/08/2027 so it might have to take a trip to Portugal.

Problem is I only have the Standard Plus warranty (not the Advanced or Elite), So I'll have to pay for shipment both ways. I'll need to see how much that is first.
 
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Where does it tell you what type of service / warranty you have with OM?

I just went online to the myomsystem and clicked support and requested a repair from there. I didn't have to pay postage, they gave me the documents to print and attach.
 
Yeah I agree to if it’s in warranty it’s free pick up and return
 
the black fox said:
Yeah I agree to if it’s in warranty it’s free pick up and return
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.... Indeed it is. And then after their receipt and assessment of your camera's issue they will decide whether it can be put right under warranty or whether there may be costs incurred following your approval of those costs.

This is standard practice with all products which carry a manufacturer's warranty, not just cameras.
 
I’ve just tried to submit the camera for repair on the OM website, and after selecting the OM-1 as the item I want repairing it takes me to a second screen where it just says “you are submitting a new repair request” and then just hangs and does nothing ? Am I doing anything wrong ?

 
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I’ve just tried to submit the camera for repair on the OM website, and after selecting the OM-1 as the item I want repairing it takes me to a second screen where it just says “you are submitting a new repair request” and then just hangs and does nothing ? Am I doing anything wrong ?

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Are you using an ad blocker or vpn that suppresses pop ups? Just a thought.
 
These marks are becoming quite apparent on the OM1, fair few people seem affected by them.
Its about time OM accepted there is a problem and offered a fix whether covered by warranty or not.
 
It can be slow....

It will ask you to upload sales invoice (assuming not done so already) and some images of the issue also. Then I believe it will give you somewhere to type a short paragraph about what is wrong
 
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tijuana taxi said:
These marks are becoming quite apparent on the OM1, fair few people seem affected by them.
Its about time OM accepted there is a problem and offered a fix whether covered by warranty or not.
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I wonder if there is a dodgy batch of sensors liked to serial numbers.

I maintain that mine was examined by Wex who tried to clean it and called me, sat me down in the Birmingham branch and explained to me, it was not dirt. They suggested I sent it off to OM for warranty repair.

OM Systems paperwork that came with the returned camera simply stated and I quote we have cleaned the sensor, which I know is not true. In my opinion they have changed it but don't want to admit it.

I read a lot online and it's an issue with some sensors but not others. Hence I think they have a dodgy batch. My older OM1 with different serial number is spotless.
 
Adamcski said:
I wonder if there is a dodgy batch of sensors liked to serial numbers.

I maintain that mine was examined by Wex who tried to clean it and called me, sat me down in the Birmingham branch and explained to me, it was not dirt. They suggested I sent it off to OM for warranty repair.

OM Systems paperwork that came with the returned camera simply stated and I quote we have cleaned the sensor, which I know is not true. In my opinion they have changed it but don't want to admit it.

I read a lot online and it's an issue with some sensors but not others. Hence I think they have a dodgy batch. My older OM1 with different serial number is spotless.
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I agree that there could well be a dodgy batch of sensors, its definitely more than just a few isolated cases.
Another explanation could be that they are degrading with age, not heard it mentioned (yet) about the Mk2.

Whatever the reason its about time OM accepts that a problem does exist and reassures owners it will be fixed FOC
 
tijuana taxi said:
I agree that there could well be a dodgy batch of sensors, its definitely more than just a few isolated cases.
Another explanation could be that they are degrading with age, not heard it mentioned (yet) about the Mk2.

Whatever the reason its about time OM accepts that a problem does exist and reassures owners it will be fixed FOC
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Not sure about degrading with age.

Both the OM1 cameras I own have different serial numbers and both are circa 12-18 months old. Only one developed the fault (fixed).

Luckily OM give that 2 year warranty that goes up to 2.5 years when registered online.

My Jessops body (no issues) warranty expires 12.2026 (the one for sale).

The Amazon body that’s been fixed expires 04.2027.

I wouldn’t say either are old.

I will however keep my eye on them now and my OM1.2 (luckily that has the free 5 year warranty).

My plan, assuming I don’t sell the Jessops body, will just be to purchase the extended 5 year total warranty for both and keep the Jessops one as back up, or even explore video with it
 
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Well I've just had to contact OM Systems over the phone (a pretty painless operation), as the repair request process via the website is definitely down at the moment.

As I have the Pro Service Advanced warranty package in place, they have said they will send me a priority returns label and my repair will be expressed though their system. They even asked me if I needed a loaner camera during this time (which I politely declined). Let's see how this plays out.

As per a PM received from Adam above, I'm going to take photos of the body before I send it back as Adam discovered a scratch on his when it was returned which took a second trip back to OM Systems to resolve (thankfully FOC). They have asked me to send just the body, (no battery & no hotshoe cover) with a just body cap.
 
Sootchucker said:
Well I've just had to contact OM Systems over the phone (a pretty painless operation), as the repair request process via the website is definitely down at the moment.

As I have the Pro Service Advanced warranty package in place, they have said they will send me a priority returns label and my repair will be expressed though their system. They even asked me if I needed a loaner camera during this time (which I politely declined). Let's see how this plays out.

As per a PM received from Adam above, I'm going to take photos of the body before I send it back as Adam discovered a scratch on his when it was returned which took a second trip back to OM Systems to resolve (thankfully FOC). They have asked me to send just the body, (no battery & no hotshoe cover) with a just body cap.
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Just to add to the above.

When I got home from work and looked over the camera it appeared fine. In the better light the following day I noticed there was a scratch on the top plate of the camera, about 1 cm long that would appear to have been made by a tool as it was perfectly straight. I emailed OM and complained and they have (apparently as it is due back tomorrow) replaced the top plate now. Service has been good but naughty for them to have sent it back damaged.
 
Well mine has just been dropped off at the DHl drop off office, so we'll see how long this takes.

I've also taken a lot of photos of the condition of the camera before sending it.
 
Just a random question. Does anyone know if you have saved your settings from an OM-1 (original version), into the O.I. Share app, can these be applied to a potential new OM1 MK II or do the MK1 & II versions not share the same set of settings ?
 
Sootchucker said:
Just a random question. Does anyone know if you have saved your settings from an OM-1 (original version), into the O.I. Share app, can these be applied to a potential new OM1 MK II or do the MK1 & II versions not share the same set of settings ?
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.... I know that you definitely cannot ~ I checked with OMDS because I wanted to do it when I moved from OM-1 'mk1' to mk2.

There are various Firmware differences which aren't obvious without a deep dive into them ~ All which improve the mk2 over the original.
 
peat said:
Does anyone pay for camera equipment insurance if so which company? Mine has just gone up 20 quid so need to look elsewhere
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.... Yes, ALL my camera equipment is included in my Bank's Home Insurance Contents policy and covers me worldwide. Each item over the value of £2,500 is individually listed. I have had this insurance for many years and had absolutely no delays or problems when claiming. It's not cheap but absolutely worth it for my peace of mind.

In my opinion, the cheapest insurance you can find is not always the best long term solution, neither is regularly changing your insurer. Nobody likes paying any insurance .... Until you need it!!
 
I have all my items, cameras, bikes, watches, shotguns on my home insurance and listed as individual items where necessary like @RedRobin

I have looked at separate insurance for bikes and watches but it is just easier and often cheaper to add them to your contents insurance. (in my experience).
 
benington said:
Ok, to their credit they got back in touch with me to clarify that it was a mistake on their part and some crossed wires between staff. The asia model issue only applied to the e-PL6 I had, not the e-PL7.
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They did buy it in the end, so that was good. I do wonder if I made the right choice in selling now though, it was a nice little camera!

I did like the size, fitted into a jacket pocket, but the reality of me using it was a bit uncomfortable to grip. I was also thinking of giving as a gift to a family member, but I've been wondering if an e-M10 I or II could be a better intro to M43, with the better grip and more dials.
 
jerry12953 said:
I see that OMDS currently have the 100-400 zoom on offer at £799. That's a great price for anyone wanting one, but I wonder if a v2 is in the offing?
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that's the original MKi lens Jeremy . the much improved MKii version has been out for over a year and is available on the grey market for as little as £740 new .. in fact its that good I sold my 300mm f4 as no longer needed
 
the black fox said:
that's the original MKi lens Jeremy . the much improved MKii version has been out for over a year and is available on the grey market for as little as £740 new .. in fact its that good I sold my 300mm f4 as no longer needed
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Ah! thanks for clearing that up! I'm a bit behind on the lens front.....
 
Quick question please, for about 8 years now I've used the Panasonic Lecia DG Vario Elmarit 8-18mm F2.8-4 lens as my super wide on my Olympus system. It's a nice and sharp copy, and has always served me well.

As it's my only non Olympus lens, I've recently been thinking about perhaps swapping it out for the Olympus 8-25mm F4 Pro. Now the obvious advantage is the extend focal length (50mm equivalent vs 36mm of the Lecia), making it potentially a good walk about lens. Downsides are a) it's constant F4, whereas at the wide end the Leica is a F2.8 b) It's an extending zoom, whereas whilst the Lecia is also really an extending zoom also, it only extends inside the confines of the lens barrel itself and so doesn't change the length of the lens at all and c) potentially the better weather sealing of Olympus lenses (although I've used the Leica in light rain with no issues).

However my main question is does the IBIS work better at the wide end on Olympus bodies rather than Panasonic lenses ? It might just be trait of Olympus / OMS bodies, but I've always found when shooting videos on the OM-1 at the widest setting (so 8mm or 16mm FF), that when walking, I tend to get a lot of wobbling (jello) at the edges of the frame. I've tried all combinations i.e. just IS or IS + Digital as well as adjusting the IBIS strength in the menus from -1 through to +1 with no apparent real effect. I therefore always wondered if this was more to do with the lens than the body, and if an Olympus / OMS lens would work better with the IBIS in that regards ?

Anyone with these lenses that can give any real world experiences please ?
 
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Sootchucker said:
Quick question please, for about 8 years now I've used the Panasonic Lecia DG Vario Elmarit 8-18mm F2.8-4 lens as my super wide on my Olympus system. It's a nice and sharp copy, and has always served me well.

As it's my only non Olympus lens, I've recently been thinking about perhaps swapping it out for the Olympus 8-25mm F4 Pro. Now the obvious advantage is the extend focal length (50mm equivalent vs 36mm of the Lecia), making it potentially a good walk about lens. Downsides are a) it's constant F4, whereas at the wide end the Leica is a F2.8 b) It's an extending zoom, whereas whilst the Lecia is also really an extending zoom also, it only extends inside the confines of the lens barrel itself and so doesn't change the length of the lens at all and c) potentially the better weather sealing of Olympus lenses (although I've used the Leica in light rain with no issues).

However my main question is does the IBIS work better at the wide end on Olympus bodies rather than Panasonic lenses ? It might just be trait of Olympus / OMS bodies, but I've always found when shooting videos on the OM-1 at the widest setting (so 8mm or 16mm FF), that when walking, I tend to get a lot of wobbling (jello) at the edges of the frame. I've tried all combinations i.e. just IS or IS + Digital as well as adjusting the IBIS strength in the menus from -1 through to +1 with no apparent real effect. I therefore always wondered if this was more to do with the lens than the body, and if an Olympus / OMS lens would work better with the IBIS in that regards ?

Anyone with these lenses that can give any real world experiences please ?
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Well, I've never shot a video in my life, but I have the 8-25 and it's a great lens. A couple of benefits which may or may not be relevant to you is that a) it has a filter thread (72mm) and b) it has a focus clutch to put the lens into manual focus without touching the camera's settings.
 
Thanks Stephen, yes my Lecia has a standard thread as well (67mm), and the focus clutch I very rarely use on any of my pro lenses away, so those things wouldn't be a reason for me to change. I'd only change if the IBIS performance in video was appreciably better in the edge wobble than the Lecia lens.
 
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